Sorry to ask this SACD question, but


What equipment do I need to play the Stereo layer on a  SACD at 176.4khz .  I have searched the forum for more than an hour and I'm stumped.  Lets say I have a https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022CD1000B/Yamaha-CD-S1000.html?search=sacd

Or a  https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033DCD1600/Denon-DCD-1600NE.html?search=sacd 


and I want to use a  Schitt Bifrost Multibit DAC,  https://www.schiit.com/products/bifrost instead of the internal DAC.  What else do I need?


What else do I need to play  SACD at 176.4khz 


Please don't flame me, I really am stumped.


JD



 

curiousjim

NAD makes a DAC that accepts HDMI as well.  There are companeis that make I2S DACs, which use HDMI cables, but require an I2S transport.  PS Audio and Wyred4 Sound are the ones that I know but there are others.


uber, I was responding to one of the ops posts when he says something like "How are others playing SACD?"

uberwaltz,

There is a menu setting on the Oppo for SACD.  It shows it on but it will only play through the HDMI output.  There is dead silence when I use ANY other output.  Most of the problem ( So I'm told )  seems to be that RCA and Optical cables cant handle all the information from the DSD layer.  Just like now you need a new HDMI cable to play UHD/4K.  HDMI 2.2 is what I bought.  Sound will still play on most any HDMI cable.

I am going to try and find a Bryston DAC-3.  If the DAC sounds good to me, then I'll  be all set.

  "That works Mahler but Jim wants to output over rca analog
I think he just needs change some menu settings and he should be all
set"  

Thanks for your thoughts.  Keep em coming.

JD
Jim,

The final answer is that you cannot do what you want to do with the units you have.

The license from Sony for SACD prohibits a digital output (as for into an external DAC) except for digital output through an HDMI cable to a device (like the Bryston or some mid-fi receivers with built-in DACs) that can receive the HDMI signal.

Moreover, as I understand it Schitt devices do not accept a DSD signal no matter what the source; they are exclusively PCM devices.  Schitt owners please correct me.

Other than the Bryston (and I think a PSAudio) unit, the only way to get a DSD signal from an SACD disk into a separate DAC  is to rip it and play it on a DAC that will accept a DSD signal.  Most good ones do.  And thousands of audiophiles do rip their SACDs to send the music through their favorite separate DACs.
Mahler..

My apologies!

Jim/melm.

Imho you should STILL be able to output the sacd layer over rca analog outputs.
Why does my old Pioneer manage the trick?
I don’t think you can do it with dsd but pcm?

When I get in going to play with my very old OPPO bdp80 and see if what shakes.
The new SimAudio Moon 390 DAC/Preamp/Network player also can take the DSD stream via HDMI. Feature wise it is an impressive unit.

This video explained that. I had to use my phone to play the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-41PJdI9yg