Sorry to ask this SACD question, but


What equipment do I need to play the Stereo layer on a  SACD at 176.4khz .  I have searched the forum for more than an hour and I'm stumped.  Lets say I have a https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022CD1000B/Yamaha-CD-S1000.html?search=sacd

Or a  https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033DCD1600/Denon-DCD-1600NE.html?search=sacd 


and I want to use a  Schitt Bifrost Multibit DAC,  https://www.schiit.com/products/bifrost instead of the internal DAC.  What else do I need?


What else do I need to play  SACD at 176.4khz 


Please don't flame me, I really am stumped.


JD



 

curiousjim
curiousjim,


In essence, in your original post you seem not to be interested in playing SACD through an outboard DAC in its native DSD(ISO) form but converted to PCM. Is it because the Schiit DAC you mentioned cannot play DSD, but does play 176.4 PCM files?

To answer the end question from your original post,

"What else do I need to play SACD at 176.4khz "
You would need:

-SACD

-appropriate SACD player (that gets very specific and, surprise, cheap)

-modem

-computer

-program for conversion from DSD to PCM (dbPoweramp, for example, although I do not think it will get you to 176.4, Korg Audiogate may but I would need to check it)

-cable for connecting computer (file player) and DAC

At that point, you will not be spinning actual SACDs anymore, but files of some sort from a hard drive of some sort.

I recently contacted Oppo as I want to compare the SACD hybrid layer on my 195. Apparently it cannot be done, or it might, IF connected to a monitor where I can switch settings. Even it that works it would mean keeping the monitor connected

And since the 105 is currently my only source it auto selects SACD only, but via the analog outs, which in my case is XLRs

I also have a dac pre connected via Optical and coax, but the hybrid layer will not play through them

Odd, but true
So last night I hooked a Sony to a smart tv with HTMI and Optical out to a receiver. I played the SACD stereo layer.  I hooked up the Oppo the same way and it also played the SACD stereo layer.
Than I did something I hadn’t tried before, I plugged in a Toslink and a digital RCA into the Oppo and removed the HDMI, and plugged in the Analog RCA’s back in.  Both the Toslink and the Digital RCA were plugged into other devices and are working as they should.   IT WORKED!  I was able to listen to the SACD stereo layer form the Analog RCA’s! Than I went to bed, confused but happy.

Later today I’m going to unplug the Toslink and then the Digital RCA and see what happens.

I need coffee...

JD

Glad to hear success Jim!

I think what is happening is that even with HDMI turned off in the menu, if the OPPO sees one actually connected( even on the video side) it takes over as priority.

Good move!
Confusing, but excellent that you can, at least, use it for SACDs in the way they were designed to be listened to.

Unfortunately, it does nothing for your wish to play it via an external DAC as you stated in the original post.

We keep on adding players. We started with Denon and Yamaha, switched to Oppo along the way, and now added SONY.

Can we also add what model numbers we are talking about? They may not all work the same (from the same manufacturer). Not because of curiousjim, uberwaltz, or me. Some day, someone may revisit this thread looking for similar answers and she/he may find it helpful to know what exactly we were talking about. It may save that person some time of tapping in the dark.