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Alert, Warning, and Caution about Modified Components

This information has previously been provided to the group under a previous, pre-existing  thread and is beyond dispute, argumentation, or refutation however the thread was deleted because of improper, abusive, antagonistic behavior by one of the participants which while it was a correct, justified, and measured response by the moderators it had the unfortunate, unintended, unnecessary consequence, result, and effect of removing this information that will be of value to some although of course many of the knowledgeable experts here will already know this.

There are some dealers who sell new equipment that they have modified, altered, or customized by some method, fashion, or design and I am not talking hear about professionals who are often degreed engineers who are fully educated, skilled, and qualified to make such alterations to components intended for use in a Music Reproduction System. I am talking about dealers some of which are actually "part time" as can be shown by they're store hours and these retailers, merchandisers, and salesman do not have the prerequisite qualifications to perform this type of work. Without expressing any opinion, judgement, or assessment of these "modifications" I offer to the group these agreed upon details of which those considering such action should be consciuous:

1.) Any modification of an electrical component carries with it a potential hazard of fire and/or electrical shock and as such can be lethal and this risk should be considered against the potential value of any "improvement" promised as a result of the modification.

2.) Any modification is certain to render invalid, void, and unenforceable any manufacturer's guarantee, warrantee, promise, or assurance regarding safety, reliability, and performance of the equipment subjected to the alteration. 

3.) Because of as stated in item 2 above, the manufacturer of such modified equipment is certain to decline, refuse, and reject any request to service, repair, or even inspect such a unit that has been altered contrary to or in in conflict or defiance of it's original design.

4.) Because the altered unit is now something unique unto itself and familiar only with the person who did the modification it is likely if not certain that no one will be willing to service or repair the unit other than the modifyer himself which as we know may be fully unqualified to perform any such work.

5.) You should also be cynical, suspicous and doubtful of anyone who asserts, insists, or represents in any way that his modified component is superior in performance, specification, or result from a factory original unit which has been fully tested and verified before even entering into production.


I will add to these facts that those who are unqualified to make such expensive modifications refuse to provide specific information, detail, and explanation of the work that they perform while those who are expert, qualified, and capable to do such work will explain the exact work that they perform.

This thread is limited, restricted, and reserved for discussion of equipment component modification and off topic response will be reported to the appropriate Audiogon authorities for deletion.
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bo1972
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Audio is done by a shootout. So you can compare a standard version vs a modified version. But.....we go a lot further. First, we send new clients to shops to listen to the normal version. And we let them hear the normal version first as well.

So they already understand that even with a normal version we can get a much higher result out of it. Audio for us is like a competition, it is all about overruling and outperforming. Selling just a box can be done by children as well.

I will repeat it again, we work together with different specialists all the time. Beside modification, the whole audio world loses even more regarding; the acoustics, electro-smog, high-frequency noise, and magnetism.

The photos of all systems on Facebook and the internet show the same limitations over and over again. The sleepers think and even believe that they can understand audio just by trial&error. It proves how easy it is to make people believe whatever you want them to believe.

When people are not able to face the truth, they limit themselves over and over again. And the crying and weeping will start again. And they will make it personal again. And they all forget the truth. People prove themselves how inferior and limited they all are.

It is so predictable, they all forget the essential part of audio.


glupson
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"The photos of all systems on Facebook and the internet show the same limitations over and over again."
Can you give us an example or two, actually three would be the best for this thread, of audio limitations you see on the Facebook? That statement is confusing.
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bo1972
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I will never share details because you want them to stay as limited as possible.

I can give you a few examples:

- the most time and effort I spend on the influences of the acoustic in the last 9 years. When you see the photos of Facebook and the internet it proves how limited they all know about the placement of loudspeakers and audio components.

I tested many different positions of loudspeakers and components. And also about audio furniture. The photos show how little they all know. They
have no idea what they do wrong, due to the fact that they never tested it.

- Almost all produced audio products cannot reveal all the aspects of sound. When I see them using brands and products who are incomplete again it shows their limitation in the choices they made.

- They all have done very little regarding electro-smog, high-frequent noise and magnetism.

Most brands in cables cannot reveal all aspects of sound. They use these brands and products all the time. I have done thousands of tests of products. Most are useless, but others still use these products.

Next week the High-End show in Munich will start again. They can better change the time in Hi-Fi stereo show Munich. Over 90% is 2-dimensional and even miss more aspects of sound. These are 100% facts.

You only can use the word High-End when your system can reveal all the aspects of sound. It all other options it is just a hi-fi stereo system. Based on the fact that audio is not using parameters, it is a Wild West world. People like to be fooled, they will easily believe that a product is high-end when a person says it is.




glupson
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bo1972,

"The photos show how little they all know. They have no idea what they do wrong, due to the fact that they never tested it."
How do you know it is wrong? How do you know how it sounds based on the picture? The person who placed it on that picture actually tested it and is likely even using it. You only saw the picture. There is something wrong with that approach.
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bo1972
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Hahahaha......yeah right. People have no idea how the acoustic influences the sound, but also the stage. They choose placements what influences both sound and stage negatively. They do not understand how low, mid and high frequencies response on sound and stage.

For placement subwoofers, they make similar mistakes due to the unknown. First, you need to understand the working of low frequencies. But the photos prove that most have no idea. When you have done thousands of test in over 20 years of time, you know what is possible and what is not.




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