Problems with Paypal payment?


Hi folks, 

I can't seem to get the Paypal method of payment to connect correctly.  Is that no longer supported?  Has anyone gotten that to work when the list an item for sale in the last day or so?

I haven't sold on here is a while, so the interface is new to me, but when I get to the part where I have to select payment methods, I can select Paypal, but then a popup window opens and nothing happens...

Any advice?
mjm6
I've had good experience with Paypal over the years, but I try to be careful to ensure I'm not getting scammed by anyone.

My experience is mostly with camera gear, not audio, but overall, the photo community is pretty reasonable and honest, but there are scammers about , so you have to be careful, as you do with audio gear as well.  Just don't sell on Ebay...

Even PP's fees are reasonable as far as I'm concerned.  Without having a full business infrastructure, there really aren't any other payment methods that are widely accepted and that have lower fees.  Yes, the fees used to be better, but they are overall competitive with anyone else I've looked into in the past.

As for my original question, there is a hitch in the A-gon website that makes it appear that it is calling on PP to sign in, but it apparently doesn't quite handshake with the site correctly.  I had changed my PP password a while ago, and so A-gon was passing it an old password.  Not sure why they are even storing a password on their site at all anyway.  I'm not sure I like that one bit.  They should only be setting up the handshake and allow my local browser to make the handshake, but that's not what occurs.

Anyway, I got it working.  Thanks for the comments and help folks.
I had a very similar issue just 2 days ago. PP told me it was Agon issue, Agon says it's PP issue. Go figure.
GET INFORMED!!!

In the eyes of the SEC PayPal is not a bank. - But that hasn’t stopped it from Posing like one.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1103415/000091205702030120/a2085776z10-q.htm

The main Point mentioned in above link provided by Pay Pal Themselves

14.  LEGAL AND REGULATORY MATTERS

Bank Regulatory Matters

        Because the Company is not licensed as a bank, it is not permitted to engage in a banking business. The Company does not require customers to keep funds in the Company's system in order to use the Company's product. Although the definition of a "banking business" varies among state laws, and is not limited to entities that take deposits, the Company believes that its principal risk of being deemed to be engaged in unauthorized banking activities, as indicated in the concerns raised by the four states described below, arises from the possibility that the Company may be deemed to be keeping money on account for customers or otherwise accepting deposits.

The Company has taken two principal steps intended to create the result that customers who carry balances available for future spending through PayPal are not "keeping money on account" with the Company:

    •as of November 2000, U.S.-based customers who choose to carry balances have had the option of investing those balances through a sweep arrangement to purchase shares of the PayPal Money Market Fund, which is a registered money market mutual fund. These shares are held by the customer directly, and the Company does not become the owner of the underlying funds, as it would in a deposit relationship.

    •as of August 2001, the Company changed its user agreement and the management of its customers' funds so that, for customers who choose to carry balances but do not enroll in the money market sweep, the Company acts as agent for the customers in placing their money in bank accounts, and the Company does not have discretion to loan out those funds, or spend the funds for its corporate purposes. The Company has established relationships with three banks under which it places customer funds outside of the Money Market Fund into Agency Accounts at these banks.


PayPal is a third-party processor platform vendor, also referred to as an aggregator. That means the company  on boards merchants as sub-users of one, giant merchant account that includes the entirety of PayPal’s merchant base.  

Within a traditional merchant account your funds are deposited directly into your checking or savings account within 48 hours from the time the credit card transaction is settled.

With PayPal, you must wait until the funds from the sale are deposited to your PayPal account before you can request another transfer of these funds to your business account, which can take another three to five days.

By holding on to your money longer in your Pay Pal account, the Company is collecting more interest on the entirety of their sub merchants base. AKA - Your Account X 17MM others . Placing those funds in out side Agency Accounts with three other Banks,  SEC Filling specifically point 14. above. Unfortunately is not FDIC protected.

IMO this  translates to  facing greater risk as PayPal can terminate your account and or place a hold on your funds with no notice to you. In some cases Indefinitely. In the US regulatory banking system -that is Illegal. But they are not a Bank! 

PayPal does charge extra fees relating to payment processing

1.5% Cross-Border Transaction Fee: For US merchants who accept online payments from buyers out of the country, or in-person transactions involving a card from outside the US, PayPal charges a 1.5% cross-border fee.

2.5% Currency Conversion Fee: If PayPal has to convert the currency before it deposits the funds in your own account, you’ll pay another 2.5% conversion fee. Whether you have to pay the conversion fee depends on the customer’s bank - whether it will handle the currency conversion (usually at a cost to the customer).

1.5%+ 2.5% + 2.9% = 6.9 % + $0.30
Visa and master card fees are listed here
https://www.hostmerchantservices.com/current-us-interchange-rates 

most vendors charge + $0.10

There is also 
$20 Chargeback Fee: Chargeback fees are pretty standard, and if a customer files a chargeback against you, PayPal will assess a $20 fee in addition to withdrawing the funds to cover the transaction amount the highest rated in the industry. 

"Apart from the issue of account terminations or funding holds, the only other consistent complaint about PayPal is its customer service, and reports vary. Some merchants say they’ve never had a problem with customer service. Others say that their support reps have been downright unhelpful when they’ve called in. Fortunately, PayPal offers extensive self-help resources so you should be able to deal with most technical issues without having to contact PayPal directly."  

Just Saying
There’s a growing movement (in canada anyways) for sellers distancing themselves from PayPal. Too bad really, because it (moving away from PayPal) implicates a seller as having something to hide. 
Am I understanding that Audiogon is now advising us to use a different transaction method besides PP? I took this advice a few days ago, followed the Agon link, and now am starting a dispute with 'NEXWAY'. If this sounds familiar to anyone, please advise me as to what I should do. This new company has charged $329 to my PP credit.