What Sonically is the Difference between a $1,500 CD Player and a $10K-$25K One?


I realize opinions may vary, but if I could give an example of two CD players perhaps someone can give me their thoughts on the cost benefits of either one? What would be the difference in your opinion between say a Cambridge Audio Azur 851C CD Player and the Gryphon Scorpio S CD Player? And are the difference truly audible or more technical and rather indiscernible through human hearing?

In general, what makes a CD player (other than build components) 10x more costly than a decently built one other than features?
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itsjustme I agree.  What bothers me is that my London/Decca opera LPs sound so much cleaner/less distorted than the comparable CDs, most of them digitized in the 1990s (just compare the choral parts of Turandot/Mehta-the CD is distorted).  I don't have that problem with any other classical label (7,000 CDs in my collection).  I have many wonderful 1980s jazz CDs from Contemporary and Japanese CDs.  I also have terrible/awful remasterings of mono RCA opera from the last few years (the 1980s transfers sound 90% as good as the original LPs, the new ones have cut off bass and highs, forward bright sounding mids, compression-yuk!).  Many Amazon reviewers seconded that conclusion.   Luckily, I have many Kevin Gray remasterings of all genres in both LP and CD formats.  

For my listening pleasure, I spent a ton of money on my listening room/acoustics.  Next is the cost of my analog front end.  Digital front ends can sound great even if they aren't expensive nowadays, unlike the 50-75 CD players from the 80s and 90s that I tried.  Speakers are very important in the chain and lucked out using great older speakers rather than new ones at a pittance of new price.  I get SOTA cabling from a manufacturer as a beta tester and the rest of the electronics are custom made at a low price as well (my second CD only system costs $5k yet sounds better than 90%+ of audio show gear-simple but perfectly matched tube gear and 25 year old speakers).  

Matching good sounding components is the key to good sound after accounting for the big elephant in the room-the room itself.  I use Hallographs and SR HFTs to tune the room perfectly.  Those are items generally not found in audio shows or audio salons.  Too bad as their cost relative to their merits is well worth it.  One can use lesser equipment in a great room but ruin great equipment in a poor sounding room.

My two bits.


It is all about pounding your chest when you have your buddies over to show them your new stuff.  It is then very important to tell them what you spent so they can all be extremely impressed.  Then ask one of your buddies to do a blind testing between the old and new CD player to see how much difference you can hear for the $20,000 difference.

Reminds me of the story, "THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHS"!  

Then you buddies turn to you as ask, "HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR THAT THING"?  Kind of reminds me of the Smuckers commercial.  If it's Smuckers it has to be good.
My electronics/cabling manufacturing friend got a COS Engineering $3,000 DAC that blows away my EAR Acute which is twice the price.   It took about 13 years since I purchased my CD player for me to hear the improvement in a DAC since most under $5,000 DACs I've heard are no better (and sound less analog-like) since 2006.  The COS unit is remarkable (based on a slimmed down $10,000 pre-amp/DAC unit).  Amazing and affordable compared to the high end DACs costing $10-50,000 I've heard at shows. 

Price does not indicate the design and parts quality.  I can make a great looking chassis and put crap inside and sell it for much more that a cardboard box chassis.  But I can also make a product and put it into a cardboard box that would also sound great.

When I look at "expensive" components, I rarely see high quality parts such as custom transformers, capacitors and resistors.  I see mostly aluminum chassis milled from thick aluminum.  Looks great but sounds better than the less expensive stuff.

When I modify something I start with the power supply and filter the AC first, then improve the capacitors and resistors.  Plus point-to-point wiring.  When you find something like that, you will hear the differences within 30 seconds.