Thiel Owners

The inability of certain personalities to cope with ambiguity makes the people watching aspect of audio a lot of fun. You can see with the audioholics guys that they are very emotionally invested in there being nothing audible that can't be measured. I think it would be a significant blow to their self-image if it turned out they were wrong. I get that they're annoyed by BS marketing and absurd prices but that's definitely not the whole story. Maybe it's fear that somebody might know or understand more than them in some area? 

Regardless, with active DSP speakers comes the possibility that slopes can be variable. I wish I could run my Thiels first order for acoustic music that doesn't have excessive bass and I don't listen to very loudly. On the other hand, when I want to rock it'd be great if I could just switch them to 4th order for increased headroom. I wonder if the new Meadlowlark has that ability. I saw that they're using mini DSP in their products.

jafant,

In response to your question about my StraightWire cables, I was using Encore speaker cables and Rhapsody II (RCA) interconnects in my system until just a few months ago. After switching to a PS Audio Stellar stack in early 2019, I decided to try several moderate-priced balanced interconnects in my system. Using XLR's from the Cable Company lending library, I decided that the Cardas Parsec XLR sounded better in my system than the Rhapsody II RCA I already owned (2nd place), Shunyata Venom XLR (third place), or Synergistic Research XLR (fourth place). I'm now using the Cardas XLR between my Gain Cell DAC/Pre and my M700 monoblocks. 

When I replaced the interconnect, I did not replace my StraightWire Encore speaker cable. Based on my room configuration, I have speaker cables that are 24 feet long and run under my living room floor. This arrangement makes replacement of the speaker wires quite expensive for reasonably good wire, so I'm keeping my StraightWire cables for now. Fortunately, the folks at StraightWire tell me that the Encore cable remains a very solid choice for my Thiel 2.2s and that even spending quite a bit more money would only get me small improvements in sound quality for my investment.

Sdl-4 - FWIW, Straightwire remained an active / interactive supply partner with Thiel from early 80s when they began until 2013 when Thiel was sold. SW knows quite a bit about wire, although they sometimes seem slighted in the market for lack of eber-expensive products. I would be most interested in learning how you guys consider SW and their products. I also hope for any feedback about Morrow, which is where I landed with little to no meaningful comparisons. Any thoughts?

JA - In my wire investigations I have learned that 6-9s wire is nearly extinct and even 5-9s is practically unaffordable. As the world changes toward miniaturization, highly complex component circuitry and wireless data and signal transmission, wire is less critical. It seems that some of the best sources (both audio and aerospace) are using 4-9s with careful casting, drawing, gauging and coating technologies. To your question, Thiel maintained a steadfast commitment to using the best wire available. I know that solid 18 twist isn't very sexy, and I am now comparing alternatives with coaching from wire guys, but that 4-9s x 3 twist in teflon certainly performs well. Over the years it was routinely tested / listened to against many alternatives. Remember that, unlike external speaker cable, Jim had the advantage of developing each driver's crossover as an entire system from input to driver, to include all wire effects as part of the global circuit equation. In other words, the inductance, capacitance and resistance and their subset effects were accounted for by measuring the global system.

Jim was trying to make that point in the interview, but Gene wouldn't allow it to really go there as a stepping stone to further investigations. It's quite easy to pot-shot any designer's values and approach. But I can tell you that Jim milked very high performance out of complex circuits that could only be afforded by scrutinizing the cost / performance ratio of every single element.

sdl4
You own a very nice system.  Happy Listening!