Turntable/Tonearm choices


What is your take on Clearaudio Ovation with Satisfy tonearm vs Thale Slim II with Simplicity II tonearm vs Stabi R with Kuzman 4 point tonearm?
jaym759
Dear @jaym759 : I disagree with that no sense " neither one ".

Thale is the best way to go. Its tonearm is really unique due that even designed as a pivot tonearm it runs the cartridge in tangential way and this means that with any cartridge exist no tracking error and no tracking distortion for that error.
That is a tremendous advantage over any other pivot tonearm along the Thales second to none build quality in the TT/tonearm combinartion.

The choice is " pristine " and direct with no single doubt.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
I guess if you don't know its a copy of a 60 year old design then yes, its unique. https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/12/16/thales-simplicity-ii-tonearm-review/

The alignment jig is a lot like a Graham, except where Graham etches a precise cross and even supplies a magnifying glass for precision the "Simplicity" uses a huge circle for nice vague never sure what you got alignment. Awfully odd for an arm whose entire reason for being is to eliminate tracking error.

It also flies in the face of all other pivoted arms ever made in that they all strive to eliminate even the most microscopic amounts of play. Simplicity doubles down on play and vibration with two arm tubes, two counterweights, two of just about everything. Except, read the review, when it comes to the work involved in getting it set up its two squared.

My Origin Live arm like most others mounts the cartridge directly. There are a grand total of three pivot contact points. With the Simplicity, well frankly I lost count and will defer to raulireugas for the official count but it looks like at least 9. How 9 is more pristine and direct than 3 would be nice to know too.
Just my 2cents I’d go with anything Kuzma. Love mine and several friends use different Kuzma’s and we all love them. 
1+ rsf507 Frank Kuzma is an incredible engineer with a very creative mind. The 4 point is an ingenious design and probably has the best review history of any tonearm ever made. 
The Stabi R may be the most flexible turntable ever made. It has a top quality bearing and a great D/C motor. I does need a solid stand. There is no way you could put an effective suspension under it because of it's flexibility and wide range of possible weights. It easily outguns the other tables mentioned but is also more expensive. I do not have a Kuzma turntable but if I were to get one it would be either this or the M.
I do have 4 point arms and everything about them is first class from machining to finish. 
rauliruegas, the Thales arm is a nightmare. How do you make something so simple as complicated as h-ll. If you don't think bearing friction is an important issue by all means buy one.
millercarbon, you need a new turntable. Might I suggest a Rega Planar 1.
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