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I am Looking for That Elusive 3 Dimensional Room Filling Soundstage

I have heard it half a dozen times at home, small room, Primaluna HP Integrated or a Rogue Atlas Magnum II and RP-1 Pre and believe it or not a pair of close to 30 year old Paradigm Export Monitors.

The experience I had, I can only describe as sitting in an aquarium when the litlle rectangular glass aquarium was filled with liquid engulfing you from all directions with no awareness of the speaker boxes...it was just perfect!

The room is approximately 12 x 13 x 9, small bedroom converted to a den!

So the question is what speakers does everyone recommend to provide the same experience?? I have a budget of $2000 for the next little babies so let’s not talk about Focal uber expensive stand mounts at $9500 thank you!

Monitor not floor standers and the Primaluna is gone, it’s all Rogue And yes, I would consider a pair of floor standers that are not to intrusive.
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brownsfan
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but no amount of vinyl is going to fix an untreated room that is perilously close to a perfect cube.   Fortunately, these two solutions are not mutually exclusive.   But everything in its proper order. 

@dep14 offers excellent advice with respect to going slowly on room treatment.   One too many traps, or one trap poorly located, can suck the life out of a room.  With respect to the OPs goals, in my opinion the best bang for the buck is going to be addressing whatever low frequency ringing may be present and judiciously treating first reflection points.  However, there is nothing cheaper than free, so the first step is optimal placement of speakers and listening position.   Properly treating a room is an exercise in patience.  Measure, interpret, treat modestly, then repeat.  
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geoffkait
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An important part of the puzzle is every time you add/change/delete/upgrade room treatments you must then reestablish ideal speaker locations. Sorry to be the bearer of bad gnus. 🐂 🐂 🐂
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geoffkait
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mapman
From a technical perspective, streaming is a much more robust process than reading data of an optical disk (CD) in real time. All my CDs get ripped first right up front then streamed. Even off my smart phone in the car. I never "play" CDs anymore. The results are pretty much never as good as ripping. Not all CD players are created equal of course but they all face the same challenges.

>>>>>Uh, I was addressing those who do play CDs, not people who don’t.
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mapman
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" An important part of the puzzle is every time you add/change/delete/upgrade room treatments you must then reestablish ideal speaker locations. Sorry to be the bearer of bad gnus."

No you don’t have to  Debbie Downer, if you just do it right.

But you seem always determined to get everyone to spin their wheels, chase their tails, battle windmills and fork over money in general for useless tweaks. I guess its a living.

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geoffkait
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Actually, not to be too harsh, but you guys seem to do fine chasing your own tails and spinning your wheels without any help from me.
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