Stop with the nonsense about technical imperfections! Both amplifiers measure quite well on traditional bench test protocols. They are both low noise and low distortion amps that meet their specifications.
The imperfect amp: Pass or Ayre?
There are two high end SS amp brands which, from a technical perspective, don’t do very well, which I am thinking of:
Ayre and Pass.
Pass has stated that even ordered distortion is euphonic. Ayre’s zero feedback, diamond circuit has a great deal of distortion compared to the very best measuring amps.
I have to admit, that like an IPA vs. a Belgian White, I have a very strong preference, but my preference is not canon. It is just how my wallet moves me. You should in no way feel like my tastes matter. Buy what makes you giddy with joy.
Would you, kind lady or gentleman, tell us if you have heard both, what did you think?? Is this to narrow? Would you throw another brand into the ring??
Ayre and Pass.
Pass has stated that even ordered distortion is euphonic. Ayre’s zero feedback, diamond circuit has a great deal of distortion compared to the very best measuring amps.
I have to admit, that like an IPA vs. a Belgian White, I have a very strong preference, but my preference is not canon. It is just how my wallet moves me. You should in no way feel like my tastes matter. Buy what makes you giddy with joy.
Would you, kind lady or gentleman, tell us if you have heard both, what did you think?? Is this to narrow? Would you throw another brand into the ring??
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looks like buyer's remorse too bad mate. many amp brands out there that will suit your taste better try using your ears they will never fool you. that pseudo scientific approach is what got you to this state of confusion.i can imagine that now you can choose the best amp only by looking at it's thd ...yeah right. if you would only buy what sounds best to you than you wouldn't need specs or audio forums to make you feel better about it. i also understand the heroes that try to inform us of the bullshit products that exist but in this case both brands are so loved by audiophiles that nothing you will say can hurt them. don't trust me trust your ears |
Looks like 6 TROLLING discussions to me... https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-imperfect-amp-pass-or-ayre https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/you-ve-tried-other-amps-and-ended-with-pass-please-discuss https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ayre-parasound-pass-where-are-you https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/pass-xa200-8-review-fun-measurements https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/spectral-vs-ayre-vs-pass-vs-bryston-comparisons-and-thoughts https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/used-pre-ayre-pass-or-para-jc2 Here's the biggest joke of the century (written by Eric).
Funny thing is, the Luxman 507ux sounds bright, thin, and dry compared to Pass amps. Audiodrom only gave it a 76%, while the pass int 250 get 92%. Eric, why do you keep chasing bad sound after bad sound? If you've gotten a Pass Amp at the beginning, you wouldn't be in the situation your in now. Hopefully, you'll be a bit smarter with your next amp purchase (I genuinely mean that too). |
I agree with others responding to this guy’s post- endless obvious trolling with an overt agenda to look for issues with Pass products- Just weird frankly.
Eric, why do you keep chasing bad sound after bad sound? If you've gotten a Pass Amp at the beginning, you wouldn't be in the situation your in now. Why would anyone "start threads" wanting others to "post up negatives" on a public forum, if not to denigrate that product themselves. (a passed, Pass scarred man is what I see) It’s ok if you post up these negatives yourself Eric in debate over Pass amps on threads, but to start threads asking others to do it for you is, well?? a bit like hiding behind the bushes and throwing stones. Cheers George |
If erik wants to start threads questioning Pass amps, that's OK. There are so many positive threads and posts about Pass that trying to find any negative experiences is a good idea. Getting both sides of the story is always beneficial. erik starts lots of threads, many of which address controversial topics. My experience with his threads is that he is polite and usually has something to offer. He seems to like to debate audio topics. What's wrong with that? If he was a troll, I wouldn't defend him. I don't think that's what he's doing though. |
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