Phono Preamp Tube Rush


Is there such a thing as a tube phono stage that doesn't have tube rush? Is it just an inherent weakness of that type of pre or is it some combination of cartridge gain and preamp gain? I went from a silent solid state ASR Basis Exclusive to a Herron VTPH-2A (new home with space limitations) and now I'm using a Hagerman Trumpet with my Decca London Super Gold. Both the Herron and Hagerman have tube rush. The Hagerman beats the Herron in my setup and it really sounds incredible but in quiet passages and between songs, there's that hiss at high-medium and high volume. It's just there. No combination of new tubes, new cables, etc changes this fact. Same with the Herron. Anyone having a different experience with a tube phono preamp?
dhcod
Anyone here actually own a tube phono stage that is so quiet that when you place your ear right up against the speaker and the phono stage is active...and at some mild gain, but with no music playing ( or even at no gain) they hear absolutely no tube noise/rush ( dead silence)...I doubt it.
Again I agree with @daveyf , you can hear tube rush noise on any tube phono stage with just a slight bit of effort (or no effort, depending on the unit). It’s there. Yes the Herron VTPH-2A is very very low noise, one of the lowest I’ve heard - still there. And low noise tube selection is a must, but there’s no magical premium-platinum-plus selection that’s going to make it go away completely. It’s an issue of gain - a LOT of it is needed to amplify cartridge signals.

That said, for my ears, when you get to the low noise level of a VTPH-2A or my VAC phono, it’s low enough to not bother about, since groove noise will take over from there.

On the other hand, hum and buzz from grounding issues are positively insanity-inducing until resolved.

I've also had the experience that some NOS tubes can make for a substantial increase of enjoyment over new production, despite the increased difficultly of finding super low-noise examples. 
@daveyf and @mulveling
Agree 100%.  Can't avoid tube rush even with the best of tube phono stages.  It is very faintly there.  Whether you actually hear it will depend on how low output your MC cart is (and thus how much gain you need).

I have never heard an ARC phonoamp with "tube rush."
I think you will find that ARC uses semiconductors at the input of their circuits as well.
Even transistors have noise if you are placing your ear up against the speaker.

Happy Listening.