What is wrong with audiophiles?


Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"

Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.

Another one? Okay.

Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.

We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.

I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.

What is wrong with audiophiles????
128x128millercarbon
LOL this continues to be the most ironic thread going.

The OP has created a thread to denigrate other audiophiles, complains about any pushback in the most dramatic and insulting manner, and tells us what “normal” people do all the while acting like the perfect caricature of an audiophile.  
Pro tip:  using cable risers, demoing that kind of thing to guests, explaining how every little bit of equipment matters, and having the president of a cable company bringing his cables over is not what “normal people” do.   That’s pretty much exactly the type of thing normal people don’t do and a classic audiophile would do.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. But the lack of self awareness in the ongoing rants is something to behold.

Its ok millercarbon, really, people can practice this hobby any way they want to.  No need to keep denigrating and insulting those who don’t meet your standards.  
But if it’s truly impossible for you to stop carrying on in such a monumentally judgemental fashion, well, you might want to grow a thicker skin for it.

Wait, let me do this for you: “anyone disagreeing with my rant is just another one of those problem audiophiles!”


(...I think some of the forums need a .jpg just beneath the opening statement by {any} OP....just Because...)

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...I trust that some can distinguish the 'potentials' that lead to these 'black post holes'....spiraling masses, leading into the eventual 'end' of 'bad 'vibes' and condensation....

Marx (Karl, not Groucho) had a pithy comment about such..."Each...",etc.
Like any 'troll', well-meaning or not....I could go on....but, I won't.

I hesitate to interrupt the wonderful time y'all are obviously having.

Please, continue.
This is all just an obvious case of mistaken indignity.

Have you seen what it’s like out there? Do you ever actually leave the house? Everybody just yells and screams at each other. Nobody’s civil anymore! Doesn’t anybody think what it’s like to be the other guy? They don’t. They think we’ll just sit down and take it like good little boys! That we won’t werewolf and go wild! 🤡