Ohm Walsh Talls and amplification


Ok, I am perplexed and I would appreciate any feedback you can give me. I am interested in getting a pair of Ohm Tall speakers. Initially (based off from Steve Guttenberg's and Zeos' reviews) i assumed that the 2000s were the ones for me. I don't see where Zeos' or Steve's rooms are any bigger than mine but, I measure the square footage of my room last night and it's only 353 square feet! Zeos himself even said that the 1000s were the correct size for his room, but he just wanted to go bigger. So, my first question is: Can you use a bigger Ohm Tall than what your room requires (as Zeos does)? Also, these speakers seem to love power. Steve drove his with a Mytek amp and a big Pass Labs amp. I cannot afford  Pass Labs and, the Mytek...well, I *could* maybe swing that but, Zeos uses a pair of Crown amps that are not made for audio but for DJs and live entertainers, etc. Obviously, he's very happy with the results. I finally did call John Strohbeen and he confirmed that the Talls love power... he suggested Mytek, Peachtree, certain NAD models, and Emotiva as affordable amps that have good results. I then asked him about Zeos using the Crown amps and he said, "Yeah, that's another way to go that's very affordable." I asked him if the sound was good and he said, "Yeah, it sounds good. In fact, we used something like Crown that here in our factory for quite a while." So, my second question is: what success have you had in the way of amplification with your Ohm Talls? 
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I think any decent amp can power them up just fine. They will however respond quite well to added power and upstream upgrades. I’m very surprised how revealing they are compared to others I’ve owned of differences in sources.

As for the size, I think they perform remarkably well size for size. That said, I think John might undersize them just a shade if you like a little bass/impact. Also, look at the room construction and floor substrate.  I have a dedicated room in my finished basement, but it's padding and carpet over concrete.  No question the concrete floor benefits from a bigger speaker/ability to put out bass.

My room is 13 x 17, closed, 9ft ceiling. The 2000’s would work. I have some 5000’s (and I have the treble and midrange in the + position, midbass and low bass in the neutral) and love them in here.

That said, I just had some Pro-200’s upgraded to Pro 3000’s (pretty nice!), and they do a pretty darn good job of thumping the room. One they broke in a bit, remarkable what they do for their size. While my 5000’s are the "square" cabinets, the Pro 3000’s use 3000 drivers on a round "cabinet". I think there are some advantages to the round cabinets.

The 3000’s bass I would be very happy with without a subwoofer also, just like the 5000’s. That said the 5000’s can absolutely thump the room. The 3000’s thump/punch, but not quite like the 5000’s. They might sound a shade tighter though.

Ultimately I’ll likely sell either my 5000’s or 3000’s as I have another pair of speakers being built. But, I’ll keep one set I suspect for another room.  The OHM's do some very cool, fun things.



I can strongly recommend BelCanto c5i digital  integrated amp with the Ohms. Only 60w/ch though so no concert level volumes perhaps.

For a more powerful integrated amp, I really like the tube/Class D hybrid Rogue Pharoah or even its smaller brother the Sphinx.

The Rogue Pharaoh is severely lacking in grunt. I've owned both the Sphinx and the Pharaoh and neither are high-current amps in practice. One owner on the Steve Hoffman Forum had a lot of difficulty driving his Maggie 1.7s with it. He switched to a PrimaLuna Dialogue tube amp of only 70 watts/ch and had no problem driving the Maggies. Note in Stereophiles' measurements of the Sphinx that it clipped at 150 watts/4 ohms, well below its claimed spec of 200 watts/ch. 

If you're considering Class D, best to go with one of the Hypex N-Core based units. Some of these newer amps are at least meeting claimed output and measuring well. N-Core is the latest development from the guy who wrote the proverbial book on class D topology.

As for Rogue, I owned a Cronus Magnum II and it sounded way more ballsy than the class-D hybrids. Aside from a high noise floor it was a great sounding amp.  Same for the Parasound Halo Integrated - way more grunt than the hybrid Rogue amps.

Another you should look at is the Monolith 2X.
https://www.amazon.com/Monolith-Multi-Channel-Power-Amplifier-Channel/dp/B073GHXYX1?th=1&psc=1

 It was designed by ATI which is a very respected amplifier manufacturer, known better in the pro audio community. Audioholics measured this amp and it performed better than many at much higher prices. 







That Monolith 2X sounds very promising! In addition, aren't Adcom amps known for being (if nothing else) quite powerful and budget-friendly?