What is wrong with Audiophiles?


Well, many issues. The pursuit after uber-expensive interconnects, speaker cables, power conditioners, power cables can be rediculous. Not to mention Audiophiles who paint the outer sides of their CD's with a green marker. A few days ago I visited a local hi-fi exhibition in Israel. Two of the most impressive rooms where the YG Acoustics with an all NAGRA amplification and the Focal room. The speaker cables in the first room cost $70,000. That was also the cost of the speaker cable in the Focal room. One could buy a BMW or a Merc AMG or a Porsche for that much money. Does this make sense to you? And, lest I forget, I have an Audiophile neighbor in the building where I live. I offered him to borrow a CD of an Israeli singer that I admire. How is the quality of the recording, he asked. "average", I answered. "No, I can't listen to average recordings", he replied. I call that "Audiophilia neurosis". 
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That was a great list ... have some more things to add to it. Sound familiar?


  • Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  • Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
  • Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
  • Exaggerate achievements and talents
  • Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
  • Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
  • Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
  • Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
  • Take advantage of others to get what they want
  • Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
  • Be envious of others and believe others envy them
  • Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
  • Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

Damn ... I wonder which is worse?  The $70K cables or the list above.  Can I buy that list?  How much?  I don't have $70K.  Can you take monthly installments?  I can use the list to meditate to improve my music listening.  
Yes, it does sound familiar. Too familiar. That list looks like it comes from the Wikipedia page for “How to spot a Cargo Cultist?”
I understand your attempted analogy, but the $400K Ford GT has some verifiable, significant and usable differences compared to the Fiesta.  At issue is whether the $70K audio cable provides any audible difference compared to a much less expensive cable, in any audio system, even a $1million dollar system.  While an aspect of the $400K is "jewellery", the most significant aspect of it is not.  With the $70K audio cable, there is no verified evidence that it provides superior audio, and hence most of the price is "jewellery". There is little evidence it advances the state of the art or that there is trickle down effect in technology.

If you are someone who likes audio jewellery, AND you won $70mil, sure you may be tempted to spend $70K on a cable. If you are someone who is focused just on the quality of sound above all else, then I doubt you would be tempted.


Contrary to what many on here claim, I don't see a whole lot of envy of someone able to spend $70K on a cable, no more than I see envy that results in insults for someone spending $400K on a Ferrari, or $1.9mil on a Bugatti. Heck, you don't see much of that at all on someone spending $20K+ on a Rolex either .... but if you start to claim that your $20K+ Rolex keeps better time than someone else's $50 atomic clock linked Casio, then don't be surprised when someone calls you out on it.



andy2750 posts11-18-2019 12:31pmI understand where OP is coming from. But from another perspective, there are a lot of people with a lot of money. For those who are driving Toyota Corolla, they probably have the same feeling toward those who are buying a $19 million dollar Bugatti Chiron or even a $350K Ferrari.  

I on the other hand appreciate those who willing to do the research to make a $70K cables. It's the human spirits we should celebrate. It's what advances the human race. It's like Ford selling a $18 thousand dollar Fiesta but also at the same time selling a $400 thousand dollar Ford GT. I am sure the company selling the $70K cables also selling some low end cables that people can afford at 800 dollar. 

Let's be real for a moment.  $70K cables exist for the sole purpose of providing something to buy for a person looking to drop $70K on a product that cannot be optimized in any way, shape, or form beyond a price point of a few thousand.  E.g. top-of-the-line Audioquest, top-of-the-line Inakustik.

And BEWARE gk's Melanesian ploys.