What is wrong with Audiophiles?

Quick message to glubson. Somebody’s trying to horn in your territory! 

From the movie Patton, there is a scene in which Patton and the Morocco president on the stands watching the marching of Morocco military men wearing beautiful uniforms.  Patton turned to the Morocco president and said something to the following "It's beautiful.  A perfect combination of military and Hollywood."

It was probably one of those things where you had to be there. 🤗

I don't mean "audiophilia" evidence, I mean evidence that would show up under any level of scrutiny .... i.e. some blind testing. I don't care if you keep in the system 30 second, 30 minutes, or 30 days ...1  ... just one test that can pass for anything that would be considered "evidence" in a normal world that that $70,000 cable can perform noticeably better than one that costs 1/10 or even 1/100th the price.


Here is the thing .... you won't be able to provide it.    You will provide all sorts of ad-hoc evidence, specious claims, etc. but not one real "test". Not one.  So you can use all the superlatives, and adjectives, and flowery language that you want, but it does not make you right as you won't be able to provide proper test results.  That is not my issue, that is yours.

clearthink971 posts11-18-2019 1:32pm
atdavid"With the $70K audio cable, there is no verified evidence that it provides superior audio, and hence most of the price is "jewellery".

This is one of the grandest, boldest, most illogical arguments ever made in this esteemed audio forum. Having already claimed "there is no verified evidence," our contributor then feels entitled, justified, and safe is pronouncing one of his Special Conclusions: " Most of the price is jewelry." Nonsense!

There is actually substantial, significant, abundant, evidence regarding the performance and sonic characteristics of this cable but it’s not the type of evidence atdavid can grasp or digest his style is to assess all evidence unilaterally, e.g. "This evidence here is repeatable and verifiable; that evidence over there is unscientific" so of course he alone decides what is "valid" and what is not.

atdavid
I don’t mean "audiophilia" evidence, I mean evidence that would show up under any level of scrutiny .... i.e. some blind testing. I don’t care if you keep in the system 30 second, 30 minutes, or 30 days ...1 ... just one test that can pass for anything that would be considered "evidence" in a normal world that that $70,000 cable can perform noticeably better than one that costs 1/10 or even 1/100th the price.

Here is the thing .... you won’t be able to provide it. You will provide all sorts of ad-hoc evidence, specious claims, etc. but not one real "test". Not one. So you can use all the superlatives, and adjectives, and flowery language that you want, but it does not make you right as you won’t be able to provide proper test results. That is not my issue, that is yours.

>>>>Geez Louise, talk about having your mind already made up. That is eerily similar to the standard Cargo Cult challenge, “It won’t pass a controlled double blind test!”