What is wrong with Audiophiles?

Are you purposely ignoring the substance of what I wrote? I am happy for you that you enjoy other people's comments. Adding mine or not adding mine is not going to impact your enjoyment. I will keep choosing what I want or don't want to contribute. The basic premise of your post is dishonest since I rarely (almost never) post in discussions about specific equipment pieces, so if you are making comments about me, then you are making them about threads You enter where the comments you suggest don't even really make much sense to expect from me. That pretty much means your post is a troll post.

cleeds2,560 posts11-19-2019 11:22am atdavid

I, do not want to be one more unqualified comment in a long stream of unqualified comments ... There is no value in yet another comment.

Again, sez you. But this group does not exist solely for your amusement and satisfaction. Some of us enjoy reading about others' listening experiences, even if you insist they are "unqualified" and have "no value." That's just something that - sooner or later - you'll have to accept about this group.

Apparently we may have a genius in here.  He's not only an engineer, but also a neurologist, an expert in human psychology especially in the field of psychoacoustics , and his knowledge spans the entire sum of the  cybersphere, and in fact he may even have an encyclopedic knowledge of all things since the beginning of time.  

The only way to combat such a superhuman is if "copy and paste" can be all banned :-)

atdavid404 posts11-19-2019 11:52amI prefer my anonymity here, as I do consulting work in the industry, (but sell no products in this industry). My insurance (likely yours too) also specifically recommended against it. It was your choice to show off your system. I have no such need for validation or confirmation. It would change not one iota the validity of what I post (or don't post). If you need a point of reference, when we last did our basement reno, I installed a dedicated theater/listening room. In addition to the basic room construction costs, there is about $8-10K of materials for acoustic treatment, emphasis on materials, as most of the acoustics are built into the structure, which looks better, and gives you better value as you are not buying finished products. All the acoustics was planned as part of the project so it was optimized, though we did some tweaking before locking down the finishing.

Outstanding! and I mean it. That's certainly the right way to do it.

As for the insurance part, since you are in industry in consulting capacity, I agree with you, gotta be careful. I am not an industry participant, just a hobbyist, so there is no such thing as insurance for me.

Are you sure you are not Ethan Winer?

By far the majority of our impressions of imaging and sound-stage are the speaker/room interaction (within limits of the recording), so if you don't have that right, no $ value of electronics is going to fix it.

Agreed. Again. Kudos to you that have the means and the cash to do what you did. I make due with what I have. Maybe one day I buy a new house, and build a dedicated listening rooms with all bells and whistles. 

Maybe one day I buy a new house

make sure it's blind test, blind test, blind test ... eeeeerrrrrr .... I meant make sure it's location, location, location ......

This forum got me all mixed up .....

blind test ..... ok, I need a break ... maybe go tending my garden ...

atdavid
Engineering does not make the claim that the tiny number is swamped by the large number in audio.

Psychoacoustics makes that claim and backs it up with research.

Neuroscience makes that claim and backs it up with research.

Neurophysics makes that claim and backs it up with research.

Engineering uses the work of those fields, and their research to define the parameters for the products, methods, and concepts that they develop. If you have an issue, it is with the above fields, not engineering.

You may (sic) grand statements about "this is not the way the ear works", but perhaps you can back that up with some research from psychoacoustics, neuroscience, and/or neurophysics and show how "engineering" is not properly using these principles as it relates to audio?

>>>>I hate to judge before all the facts are in but it appears that atdavid is actually the Grand Wazoo of Appeals to Authority. This is all just a continuing saga of atdavid vs people who don’t understand.