Full Range comparison


Thinking about addinfg a 2nd system next year, Trying to figure out best full range fora  845 amp i plan to purchase.
Thoughts on ,
1)SEAS Exotic/w xover.
2)Seas cheaper line of FR
3)Japenese Full Range offered on ebay., which are less than 1/2 the price of the Exotics, and are cool looking. 
I listen to classical /voice/chamber/orchestra. 
FR will be 8 inches, no ribbon, no tweeter. 


mozartfan
Yes the ebay seller is Davidlouis, ,
He has some very nice drivers, I was going to go with this as a  2nd system from his site
6.5 FR NEO magnet at $279.88/pair
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Beryllium BE Neo Flagship tweet @ $215.88/pr.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/pair-2-unit-HiEND-8inch-fullrange-speaker-97db-PK-lowther-KO-fostex/322086949721

But after researching all night, since last post,,,YT vids by the dozens, going betwix SEAS site, Madisounds site, YT and thinkin,,thinkin,,,figureing out,,,hummm, heard some Scan Spaeks, of course not their Illuminato tweet,,just their Illuminato Mid bas,,,got to thinkin...honestly, I've always been a  SEAS fan-atic and most likely will be to the end.
Don't get me wrong, Scan are world class drivers, 
But then,,,so is SEAS.
So back to SEAS it is,,,now here's one no one brought up,,,,
~~~Coaxil~~~~
Yep,
The old car speaker we all remember from the 70's...well i see SEAS offesr a  home model
~~C18EN002/A. its a 2nd gen speaker, There is no midbas, its classed by SEAS a  low midrange/indepentent tweet,,,
here's the clinger...has my Neo magnet.
Besides its really cool looking...
~~~ so tahts seals the deal. Going with the SEAS Coaxil C18EN002/a.
Now i havea  Cayin pre on Santa's wish list,,well actually , it'll come early 2020...has 2 pre outs,,so i can have the Jadis defy to the C18EN Coaxil and the other pre out to the dayton sub amp/Cerwin Vega 10 inch picked up off ebay cheap/single/sub cabinet all 3 like under $200!!!!!, so finally i will have some low fq's comming in, with my classical orch muisc, finally!!!!.
OK, so the Coaxil's carry the 200-20K fq's, the Cerwin Vega the 20hz-300 hz.
Sound like a  winning game plan?, I think  the coaxil eliminates all the issues/hangups one encounters with the so called *full range*. 
The lower fq's tend to break up the cone resonances and drowns out the low mids,,muffling, jumbling, mixing, mashing, pulverizing all the fq's up in one big south louisiana gumbo. 
So now we have 
~~~Speaker system Two~~~ figured out,,,opening the door for a  845 amp i am looking at,,,late 2020...back to 
~~~Speaker One Sytem~~~
The 18 yr old thors,,can't forget those gems...
OK, Madisound rebuilds the xovers,,,I will send thema  pair of Mundorf Gold Silver 10 uf caps i snaged off Ebay,,, they are  GIGANTIC,,and super heavy, really surprised me,,the other caps in the xover will employ Silver Oil, abd mundorksm R Resist resitors. , Low bass driver in this MTM design gets Mundorfs cheaper line the Supreme,,,low bass needs no pizzaz of silver in the caps. 
Plus, lets get rid of the low bass W18 and add  the newest of the Excel, The Graphene 8 inch, the W19,,,hummm, not sure as they go for $500 a pop

http://www.seas.no/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=566:e0076-08s-w19nx001&catid=49:excel-woofers&Itemid=359


maybe hang with the old W18,,as the Cerwin carries the lower FQ,s why add the W19?, 

Well I think we havea  good game plan here.
Upgrade Speakers Sytem One,,,add a  Coaxil SEAS Speaker System Two.
Open for ideas/suggestions~~~~


OK, SEAS offers a  speaker kit, for the coaxil/paired witha  12 inch aluminum sub...which i do not need, however on the page you can see the xover needed to make the coaxil work.
has 3 caps, C1 3.9 C2 12.8 C3 6.8
 cking Madisounds prices on Mundorf Silver Oil
10uf $139 ea + 2 uf @ $49/ea
+ 3.3 uf @ $39/ea + 8.2uf @ $119?ea,, ,,so where are we at on the budget,,,hummm, 140+50+40+120 =,,,,^^lets see,,,thats 200,,,90...60...call it $400 ea as we will need coils/resistors etc etc ,,,ETC!!!!!, 
so, 

http://www.seas.no/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=496:seas-kingro4y-mk-ii&catid=66:seas-diy-kits&Itemid=365

~~~so $500/ea coaxil + $400/ea xover = $900,,,i like to round out my numbers in thsi hobby,,,= $1K/ea,,not including cabinets,,which is quite easy, /cheap, get any old cab at the thrift store, pop in the coaxil..waaaalaaaaa.
X's 2 = $2K. ...hummmmm, maybe we should all rethink this design/idea.
My budget was no more than $1K. ....has to be Seas, i am not going for those super nice looking japenese *full* range. 
I need a SEAS design that superior's  the Thors, MTM. 


Ok, lets go back to the basics. 
Lets say i can up the budget for you guys, give you another $500, thats $1500 for your budget. 
So lets stay witha  simply 2 way. 
I have been eyeing those new Graphene for some time now, the day they came out in fact,,
http://www.seas.no/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=566:e0076-08s-w19nx001&catid=49:excel-woofers&Itemid=359


Now lets add a  tweeter, 
I am going to stay with the Millenium,,,no we already have that tweet in the Thors,,,hummm, OK, lets utilize SEAS latest creation. 
the Beryllium/Neo magnet tweet. 

http://www.seas.no/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=495:e0058-06-t29b001&catid=50:excel-tweeters&Itemid=360


T29
OK someone add up what we have so far
W19Graphene + T29 beryllium/Neo magnet. ,,,my guess is we are at near $1K,,and we ain't even got to the xover....,,,hummmm, tell you what, lets put this 
~~~Dream~~~ 2nd Speaker System~~~ on the Santa's wish list for late 2020. 
What I need you guys to do is watch for any used W19Grap/T35Beryllium units to pop up on ebay, used/cheap, make the offer, buy it, i'll give you a  finders fee. 
I'll talk with Madisound's designers and find out what we will need in  the xover.
SEAS has  a  gold mine of opportunity, but they  just sit there and test drivers all day..,,,they should stop testing and start connecting the drivers in a kit. .I mean, a  W19 graphene married to a  Beryllium T35, no speaker could touch the sound. Heck, that combo could draw so fast at the shootout, like GunSmoke, knock 10 speakers off even before they get a  few FQ's out the box.
Surely  gonna put my Thors  out. 
been researching all day since 6 am,,,finally, 12+ hours later,,,we got the design. 
Thoughts/opinions welcome~~~~

@audioabyss - I checked out the Schmidt Lambrix website.  I would agree that those speakers would be excellent sounding, since I know what the 12P sounds like, but I think they are charging way too much.  $4500 for a pair of speakers with $160 drivers and a 8" woofer where the drivers aren't even flush mounted?!?!?  I mean, come on!  I flush mounted my 12P when I built my center channel using double-thickness plywood (1.25" for the front baffle).  Yeah, don't get on me for using plywood.  It was high grade plywood and I don't like using MDF because of the pain of veneering.
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