Full Range comparison


Thinking about addinfg a 2nd system next year, Trying to figure out best full range fora  845 amp i plan to purchase.
Thoughts on ,
1)SEAS Exotic/w xover.
2)Seas cheaper line of FR
3)Japenese Full Range offered on ebay., which are less than 1/2 the price of the Exotics, and are cool looking. 
I listen to classical /voice/chamber/orchestra. 
FR will be 8 inches, no ribbon, no tweeter. 


mozartfan
@ Elliott
Yes I was aware the 300B has its limitations on low , deep bass, , at least on most speakers,,,92db+ is my guess best for 300B tube. 
I am thinking to add a  845/300B amp, 
Either the Line magentic 517, big brother to the 217 @$2K or the Cayin 845/300b @ $3K.
I am hoping either will drive the highly INEFFICIENT Thors rated 87 bd. 
I would hate to adda  845 and the sound is anemic/dull/flat in full orchestra, As that amp can not be shipped back to china fora  refund = both weigh in at over 60 lbs. 
and I  would hate to attempt to sell the amp on ebay ata  30%+ reduction. 
Shipping, as you know has gone wayyy up with FEDEX.~~~ 70 lbs = $275 ship. 
I've never heard livea  845, only via YT. 
Most of the 845 vids on Yt have horrible sounding speakers,,,speaking of which,,,have you guys seen the JADIS room YT upload ata  LV show??? 
Jadis has  the worst sounding speakers IN THE WHOLE WORLD. 
Also there is a  YT upload with the Jadis 200 monos, + Jadis' 4 chassis pre,,,what a most horrific/disgusting sound,,,not sure if it is the speakers or the jadis. 
Calss F sound. No wait its the Jadis 500 monos, each weighing in at over 120 lbs each (a  bit exxagerated , but only bya  few ozs = yeah i am bashing jadis, although i do know they make the worlds best sounding intergrateds, yet very expensive)


Jadis 500, puke sound


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4lhlNppo3w


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I have had some experience with FR designs, and many have a lot to offer. Most however have a shout in the midrange at about 1K that I cannot listen to! Round and round I went to find a driver that satisfied my preferences. The Mark Audio came very close with the 10P model, but I wanted more bass. This driver was used in a small back loaded horn design. I want to build another in the future but with the 12P driver instead, and in a larger cabinet.
 Audio Nirvana drivers (the classic series, w/o whizzer cones and alnico magnets) have a good overall sound including bass, but are slightly recessed in the upper midrange.
 I have also tried an interesting design by Deware audio that uses a unique open baffle design with a Hemholtz resonator for the lower cabinet. Truly, the choice of drivers matter here. The FRX2 drivers sold by Decware are great sounding, BUT just know that they are voiced for tube application. Their prices may stop you in your tracks at 600 ea. too. These drivers are quite unique themselves by using a special transformer to deal with the shout issue, and to tame some of the phase response anomalies of this driver.
If it’s not too late. I’m a Mark Audio FR fan. In fact, I’ve not built with much else.  I made some monitors using a vented box and some 7MS (metal cone) drivers. These are used every day in my son’s studio - but they do need a sub really.   Then I built Woden Design’s Avebury using Mark Audio 12ps. These sound fabulous to me. Truly full range, wonderful easy room-filling sound yet great precision too. So easy to set up. In my room I need to control some of the bass using Roon’s DSP.   Next project is a 2x9 driver line array...  The great thing about self build using FR drivers is the simplicity and the resulting sound value for money.