Full Range comparison


Thinking about addinfg a 2nd system next year, Trying to figure out best full range fora  845 amp i plan to purchase.
Thoughts on ,
1)SEAS Exotic/w xover.
2)Seas cheaper line of FR
3)Japenese Full Range offered on ebay., which are less than 1/2 the price of the Exotics, and are cool looking. 
I listen to classical /voice/chamber/orchestra. 
FR will be 8 inches, no ribbon, no tweeter. 


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I have just order 6 singles for my state of the art 
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With new opamps, + new Mundorf;'s = class a
I have had some experience with FR designs, and many have a lot to offer. Most however have a shout in the midrange at about 1K that I cannot listen to! Round and round I went to find a driver that satisfied my preferences. The Mark Audio came very close with the 10P model, but I wanted more bass. This driver was used in a small back loaded horn design. I want to build another in the future but with the 12P driver instead, and in a larger cabinet.
 Audio Nirvana drivers (the classic series, w/o whizzer cones and alnico magnets) have a good overall sound including bass, but are slightly recessed in the upper midrange.
 I have also tried an interesting design by Deware audio that uses a unique open baffle design with a Hemholtz resonator for the lower cabinet. Truly, the choice of drivers matter here. The FRX2 drivers sold by Decware are great sounding, BUT just know that they are voiced for tube application. Their prices may stop you in your tracks at 600 ea. too. These drivers are quite unique themselves by using a special transformer to deal with the shout issue, and to tame some of the phase response anomalies of this driver.
If it’s not too late. I’m a Mark Audio FR fan. In fact, I’ve not built with much else.  I made some monitors using a vented box and some 7MS (metal cone) drivers. These are used every day in my son’s studio - but they do need a sub really.   Then I built Woden Design’s Avebury using Mark Audio 12ps. These sound fabulous to me. Truly full range, wonderful easy room-filling sound yet great precision too. So easy to set up. In my room I need to control some of the bass using Roon’s DSP.   Next project is a 2x9 driver line array...  The great thing about self build using FR drivers is the simplicity and the resulting sound value for money. 
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I came across a pair of Audio Nirvana Super 8" with the alnico magnet. I run them in free air with a sub around 80. Amp is a Moon i3. I'm no expert, but I will say, for me, it's the best combination I've experienced thus far. The free air setup goes against a lot of different beliefs about cabinets, OB and such, and I had no idea how it would turn out. Personally, I'm beyond pleased. I listen to mostly jazz and small ensembles, and it's magic. God I love this hobby:-)