BEST HARMLESS/SIGNATURELESS SPEAKERS CAPACITORS.


Dear friends:I really need your helpwith first hand experiences with speaker crossover capacitors founded in next main experiences/tested premises: for a 3-way speaker design, high resolution audio systems, very low distortion audio systems, wide systems frequency range, " zero trade-offs ".

I know that the best capacitor is NO-capacitor, well I need your near to that full experiences with another desired premises from you: audio systems using SS electronics and mainly listening MUSIC through digital sources.

All your opinions/help are appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.


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Dear @paulcreed  and friends: Yesterday in the nigth came to my mind to look which kind of caps are using top today speakers and speakers that I already listened as Magico and YG. Both great performers and by coincidence both designers choosed Mundorf caps ( Mcapsupreme silver/gold model that is the Mundorf top of the line. ). YG use its own manufactured crossover inductors.

Now, I said at least two times in the thread that I'm a true amateuir looking for top quality performance and my technical knowledge levels are really low and I'm asking to so many gentlemans in the Agon forums that I know for sure have first rate technical levels their help:

the high Mundorf value in that cap model is 10uf where my speakers need 100uf along a 3.5mH inductor. My question is which could be the best way/road to take using those 10uf caps with a diferent inductor value: can I do that and if yes which must be the inductor value to stay in the original crossover frequency or which alternatives have I?

The additional information I have is that the crossover set at 450hz ( approx. 12db/octave. ) drivers 6ohms impedance and 95db  efficiency in a sealed/acoustic suspension speaker design..

Appreciated the overall advise about and waiting for your valuable know-how.

Regrads and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.




I amde it some kind of " research " through internet and I think I can't change the cap/inductor values or the order of the woofer filter. I have to stay as it's.

Rigth?

R.
Dear @paulcreed  and friends: Yes, I will let you know my first hand experiences with the Audyn caps in my speakers when all will done.

Btw,this thread gave me the opportunity to go deeper in the overall speaker caps subject due that not only took the opinions here but in my hunting looking for the caps with the characteristics I'm looking for I really learned and still I'm learning several " issues " on the caps regardings.

Other than Magico and YG speakers I put in " touch " with Kharma, Sonus Faber, Focal, Evolution Acoustic, etc. and I found out that no one of them in its NO COST OBJECT speaker crossovers use not a single Duelund or Jupiter caps anthe like even that their top speaker designs goes from 80K to over 200K prices range.

I already said in other thread that those very expensive caps are more colored than neutral and maybe this could be a critical an important reason why the speaker designers just avoid/stays away to use it.
The Duelund high price could be not a reasonable reason to not use those caps in a cost no object speaker design where whom pay for it are the customers not the manufacturers. Have any one of you an opinion about? or better yet: could be that all those speaker cost no object designers are just wrong about?. For me makes no sense that in those kind of speakers designs the designers don't " turn their face " for what for almost all audiophiles are the best caps ever.  Makes sense to you?

Cost no object speaker design is a very competitive niche of market where each manufacturer wants that their speakers can shines at the tue ultimate quality performance levels and best that his competitors.

Seems to me that those " neutral " caps are for people like me that are looking for up-grades or just for audiophiles where what for me is coloration for other gentlemans is neutral and for other just non-accurated or really accurated.
Perhaps what is happening with that is what happened with the " boutique " fuse types where we don't see it in top SS electronics but only with " audiophiles " as us.

MUSIC has a natural coloration, a natural tonal balance, natural agresiveness, natural brigthness, natural dynamic and obviously rythm.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.



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Check out the Tidal speaker crossover:

https://www.tidal-audio.com/technology-crossover/

A more cost effective way, how about consider stay passive for high and mid, go active for the low?
Damn ... those are some real serious speakers ... I am afraid to ask how much ... like asking how much a Ferrari costs.  If you have to ask like they say ...