In search for speakers of "natural" sound


Hello,
I am using a pair of Harbeth speakers. However, I am not satisfied with the 'naturalness' of the sound (it could be that I am so demanding). I am looking for a pair of speakers that can produce the more natural and organic sound than Harbeth if there is any.

I know that it depends on the amp, cables, and other variables. However, let's assume that with the appropriate gears, which speakers do you think can produce the "most natural sound"? By "natural", I mean the sound that we hear directly from musical instruments, from the singer without going through any amplification.

There is a user mentioning that speakers from the past used that 'natural sound' as a reference when designed speakers. In contrast, the sound today (even the hi-end one) is to "hi-fi". He guessed it could be less people have chance to listen to live / acoustic music than before.  

Is it right?

Thank you for your experience and recommendation!
Best,
Huy.

P.S: I know that my questions are silly and dumb, please bear with me.


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There is no such thing as natural sound.  I'm a pro musician...every venue sounds different with the same instruments. 
@mafra...Now, that seems interesting, a box with pipes....that, in itself, likely doomed it from the start.  Regards of how well it performed, a 'not normal' appearance would make WAF likely nil....even in the pre-EU era...pity, that....
It would be interesting if you ever remember the name of those units; please PM me if you do....*S*

@stringreen , agreed...and holds true for speakers as well.  It's music Reproduction at the end of the day...
Even if the tech extends itself to a VR version of 'audio only', it'll still get sieved through instrumentation.  Nothing will replace a pair of organic ears affixed to the sides of one's head...despite the clutter betwixt them.  It's that wetware in there that has to determine if it's Real...or 'Real Enough'.

'Ambiance', 'air', 'dimension', 'depth', and all the other descriptive terms we apply to our listening environments and the devices we employ to recreate the music we enjoy...are still artificial.  They depend on the 'suspension of disbelief', the same as a 3D movie, a VR program, or any other means to the desired end.

Spend 1K$ or 1M$...

You're still 'not there'.

@audiokinesis  is right...Even with 'ancient ears', used/abused over my lifespan....even I can discern a 'live instrument'....or voice....over reproduction.

Nirvana is still a mental construct....that we take to our graves....*shrug*

(Yes, I know that you know all of the above 'MHO'....preaching to the choir, that's already shuffling out the door, those who haven't died of boredom or worse (put that gun Down).....all we can do is play 'musical equipment' (literally) in search of the artifacts that resolve the illusion to our satisfaction....)
So I'm reading a review on stereophile and the writer begins by stating that his neighbor told him he probably wouldn't like the speakers because they were music lovers speakers not 'audiophile' speakers! they were the Vienna acoustics Beethovens. 
The model has gone through a few iterations, but VA speakers do have a really musical presentation to them. I just went thru several well regarded speakers because after a few months of being amazed with all the detail and 3d presentation I noticed i wasn't really enjoying the music as much as analyzing it. 

I don't know what your budget is but there's several dsp8000's selling for peanuts right now that are musical, have no cabinet resonances whatsoever and an open soundstage.

Salksound at axpona blew me away with the natural sound in the little hotel room, not sure what model, and being mail order you probably get a pretty good value per dollar.
I like Vandersteen speakers. I will say though I have not heard as many speakers others here on AG have heard. But so far, these speakers sound the most organic and natural to me. It does take some effort to set them up correctly and they need space around them. I used a tube integrated amp and keep the stereo setup very simple.
I think if I didn’t need to occasionally blow the windows out I would probably pick Maggie’s.