Eh hem!...Subwoofers... What do ya know?


Subwoofers are a thing.  A thing to love.  A thing to avoid.  A misunderstood thing.  

What are your opinions on subwoofers?  What did you learn and how did you learn it? 


jbhiller
This may sound like a dumb question but since the sub has three drivers firing in different directions does this create the effect of multiple subs ?


It does give you more bass than a single 8" driver would otherwise, but it’s not like having separate subs individually placed. The direction they are pointing in is kind of irrelevant assuming they can all breathe.


Using three 8" subs you get the surface area of around a 12" sub, maybe a little less. The direction they are pointing in probably has more to do with aesthetic choices.


The reason for using multiple separate subs is to try to equalize room modes. The situation where you have big peaks and valleys in the bass response.


I notice it has no built in EQ. You absolutely want to use an EQ with a sub. It will make integration a lot easier.  So will bass traps if you find you have big nulls.
thank you erik, i will look into equalization. I will also try the method indicated by davekay.
@vuongp,

The CLSII are a new experience for me. Hard to describe but the notes just seem to have so much precense and air. When I first got them and started playing them my wife and daughters came out and sat and listened, they were wowed. My current speakers are the Vandy 5a, Von Schweikert VR4 Gen III HSC and a recently aquired pair of Mezzo Utopias but the CLS panels are what made them come out and listen. The Vandys have terrific bass and great detail but they dont do well with rock. When I play jazz or blues they are great. As to the power, my main system is comprised of:
Musical Fidelity M6PRE
Musical Fidelity M6PRX amp
Denon DP80 in custom plinth with 12in Jelco and Ortophon 2M Black
Mytek Brooklyn Dac +
Nuc running Roon
Rega Apollo as a transport

I am running the Utopias in a second system with a Levinson 27 and an audible illusions pre
Everytime i hear a rig with a sub for 2 channel, i can HEAR the subwoofer, its not a balanced / natural tone to my ears. I know this can be tweaked but i have yet to hear one that i liked. Golden Ear, Martin Logan and other speakers that have self powered subs do a better job at integration than an external unit but i still always HEAR a sub in the room. I do have a sub for cinema but when listening two channel i prefer a passive speaker configuration.
 

I’ve always been able to hear where they are . And thats not good . Its the room and the placement  and its the equalization. I am happiest I’ve ever been after duke and tim shed some light on dukes swarm . Its incredible. What it did to my mains and the whole room is beautiful. Unfortunately not everyone  is going to have room for 4+ subs.   A single high dollar sub would cost as much but not be able to compete sound wise.