Kappa 9 vs Martin Logan Quest Z

Mikey44
Sorry, I didn't read all your responces, so didn't know that you had Vandersteen 2Ces already. The 2Ce Signature is a marked improvement over the 2Ce. Better imaging and seperation, richer mids, faster bass, and they are a remarkably open speaker. I don't think you can classify Vandersteen as a box speaker though. As for the Kappa 9s, they will be superior to those Circuit City Infinity Crescendos. Infinity really took a nose dive after Harmon Kardon bought them. Sad.
Old and true is fun, and I'd like to have 1964 GTO, but it wouldn't be my everyday ride. The same goes for the MGIIAs. A great speaker in it's day but they're 30 years old. And the Kappas are 1987. I think technology has made a superior speaker possible. Of course if you're just buying to have fun that can be a treat also.
Watch out for those Thiels. I've always thougt they were a litle brittle and they can be hard to drive.

Well, I have to admit, I have Vandy 2C's and 3's, no 2Ce's though they are available locally. I'm going to hear the ML's today...I wonder if the muddy-bass issue will show up for me...I'm not real big on a lot of bass, but I think I know muddy when I hear it. I've had some McIntosh XR1051's, and I thought they were very good, non-fatiguing, but muddy bass.
The CS3.5'sa re a drive away so I won't hear them for a few weeks at best. I'll report on what I hear today...

Ok, upper lows, mids, and highs are SUPERB. The bass is, like some write/say, muddy. Can that be fixed ? Maybe I should start a different thread ? I have to admit, I have never used a sub before, so I'm not sure how they work...