What is wrong with audiophiles?


Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"

Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.

Another one? Okay.

Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.

We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.

I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.

What is wrong with audiophiles????
millercarbon
There is 2 species of "audiophile" for me...

The one with money and the one with no money....

The 2 look for a "good sound"...But the one with money may have no limits  linked to their musical hobby or in some case their obsession with sound...

Some in these 2 categories indeed are the same kind of people, obsessed, more with sound for sure, than with music...

Some like me are relatively "poor" and dreamed yesterday, to owns tomorrow, a Hi-Fi system to enjoy music at last, without thinking : " this cd or files sounded bad, or worst than these other one I owns"...

When your audio system is, at " his level of price", (there is 3 level) at his relatively optimal top possibilities, than you enjoy your music for the first time, all files does not have the same audiophile qualities but they all sound good ...I created my audio system without much money for that with all my homemade cheap cost solutions...

The rest of the story is "obsession" if you go back to listening only the sound...I enjoy music without being obsessed by sound, interested by sound is not being obsessed necessarily...
Ah, the logical fallacy of lack of funds. The inverse Strawman argument of super-expensive systems. 💵 💵 💵 
The lack of fund is not "an argument" it is a fact that you can use in your rethorical construction...

I only said and want to say, that we can enjoy a relatively good Hi-fi system at any price, modulo homemade solutions... The obsession with sound is a compulsion without relation to the purse of someone... We can address this obsession with money only or creativity only , or with a mix of money and creativity together.
So we can see there's nothing wrong with this audiophile. Thank you, mahgister. The exception that proves the rule.
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