Lumin X1 latest Review like we have been saying

Alright so you admit you haven’t tested the Teac or spoken with anyone who compared it to LUMIN T2, so all of your page-long comments about that specific question are rank speculation.

Just so that’s clear.

That’s why I asked in first line of my First post post If you’d compared them. You should have just said no I haven’t.

I haven’t either but have heard from people who have and said nt505 right there with T2 at less than half cost. So I guess that’s the only direct comparison either of us have. You should get a Teac and test it.

Also I don’t think it helps a dealer’s credibility to say it is “silly” to focus on the dac chip used in a dac. Uhhhh, that’s kind of a critical piece, don’t you think? Not the only piece but a critical one and as new dac chips get released yearly with better and better specs for same cost it is extremely notable when a so-called leader continues to use 13 yr old technology in a fast moving field.
I’m sure that Wolfson was great 13 years ago. So was my Motorola flip phone from same year but I wouldn’t use it today : )


But this is an X1 thread and I’ve diverted too much attention from it already so I’ll sign off. Apologies for the diversion just wondered if a specific comparison had been done and now got the answer. Carry on and enjoy the music

“The fact that the Lumin D2 and the T2 continue to be the Gold Standard to which all modern streamers are generally being compared to” 

Please provide the source of your statement. Thank you! 

Lalik do your own research, Lumin was one of the first companies to launch a dedicated high end streamer in 2012 with the original A1. 

The A1 continued to garner international press with rave reviews from all who heard it. 

If you continue forward Lumin' products are almost universally on all magazines lists of recommended digital streamers.

In terms of experience they have been producing world class top rated streamers longer than anyone else. 

From the Six Moons Review in 2013 this sums up the company's technical prowess and why they can do what they do.

Lumin is a division of Pixel Magic.   Lumin Music in fact is a subsidiary of Pixel Magic Systems Ltd. which was founded in May 2003 as a privately held video technology equipment manufacturer for home theater and professional A/V markets. With offices in Hong Kong and San Jose/California, Pixel Magic has dealer/distributor networks for its own brand of products in over 25 countries and ODM/OEM customers in Europe and USA. Pixel Magic was the world's first developer to produce a Linux-based video processor under the Crystalio brand. Their core business is being focused on the development of innovative technologies for home-theater video processing/scaling products and high-definition TV-related products with advanced software programming features and design. 

If you have the prowess to design and develop your own technolgies and chips that is above what most traditional audio companies can bring to the table.

In the case of Lumins use of Wolfson or ESS Sabre chips the Lumin engineers know that the chip set is one part of the equation and they cleverly look at maximizing the devices sound quality by how the entire circuit is implemented. 

Kren we have compared the Lumin D2 to the extremely well reviewed IFI DSD pro which is chock full of some of the most advanced digital technology in the world, DSD 1024 up-sampling, four interleaved Burr Brown dac chips, a GE tube set, extensive re-clocking and anti jitter techniques 

The IFI DSD pro was compared by Herb Rechiert to outperform the Schitt Yaggy, and the Holo dac and a few of the highly rated killer $2-3k dacs and he even compared the IFI DSD pro to the $7k Mytek Manhattan.

Some of our clients prefer the warmer sound of the Ifi while others prefer the slightly more immediate yet still warm and full bodied sound of the Lumin the point is you evaluate a dac based on its technology but more importantly you judge its sound quality.

Are we saying that the Lumin products are better than anything else no we are not saying that, we are saying that in each price range the Lumin products are constantly compared to most of their competitors and in most cases sound as good or better for usually less money.

If you don't believe us do your own research and listen to their products.

Again if you think we are only Lumin fans we sell quite a lot of great digital which does include: Mytek, Ifi, Naim, NAD, Bricasti, T+A, Aqua Hifi as well as servers from Innous, Baetis, Nad and Naim. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

@audiotroy Sorry I’m a little confused with the old dac element.
If these are old DACs how do they perform DSD at the highest level and MQA?Is this performed in software rather than the dac chip?