Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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@altx, I’m not really versed in the intergrated market. iIntergrateds do offer value in reducing the significant cost of case work, reduced cabling and shelf space. On the other hand, if you notice the top pres often have separate power supplies, as do the Uber high end power amps. Typically separate power amps offer better isolation of noise and heat and better possible weight distribution. Often one will see higher class A bias, and or better power delivery into lower impedances from a manufacturers separates than from their own comparable intergrateds

Both the Hegel and the Ayre’s have received rave reviews. I haven’t heard the Hegel’s in any sort of serious context. I have no opinion on them. I’ve only heard the early Ayer separates. I found those Ayre’s too rolled off in the top end for my liking. YMMV. The more recent models have been described as sounding quite different. As I posted earlier, the CS 2’s with their 6 Ohm nominal / 5 Ohm minimum super smooth impedance, and fairly easy 88 dB sensitivity are from a technical stand point rather easy to drive. You should have plenty of options to choose from. Just be mindful of the CS 2’s sonic signature.
 At these prices have you considered moving up the Thiel line?
Hegel makes nice products.  I use a Hegel H190 in a secondary system driving a pair of Ohm Microwalsh Talls.
@cascadephil 

I'd be curious to know if you ever tried using your Hegel H190 to drive your Thiels ... and if so what you thought of the pairing.
Hegel specs say their integrated amps are stable down to 2 ohms.
So if so, all that is left is if it's a good sonic match.

Check out the CS 2.7 in White over on U.S. Audiomart. Location: Virginia.

Happy Listening!
I've mentioned this before, but perhaps it's worth mentioning again. Claims of stability into a given impedance doesn't really say much, other than the amp won't go into oscillation when faced with such an impedance. Sure it's nice to know your amp won't blow up when confronted by such a load, but it doesn't indicate how it will perform when dealing with it. How much power can it deliver under such a load? Failing to double down into lower impedances suggests that frequency linearity could be compromised at the amps high power outputs. Often times amplifiers start to strain and sound hard before going into actual clipping.

Altx's CS 2's have a fairly easy and particularly smooth impedance for any speaker never mind a Thiel. Probably not an issue for him.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/thiel-cs2-loudspeaker-measurements


Neither of the afore mentioned intergrateds are spec'd below 8 Ohms.

The Ayre EX 8's measurements:


https://www.stereophile.com/content/ayre-acoustics-ex-8-integrated-hub-integrated-amplifier-measurem...

are rather disappointing to my eyes for such an expensive ss amp.

Still, for the CS2's if not pushed too hard in a smaller room the Ayre EX 8 could work.


Unfortunately I couldn't find independent measurements for the Hegel 390i, but is spec'd for much higher power output into 8 Ohms.


https://www.hegel.com/products/integrated/h390

The Hegel 390i will probably work for the Theil CS 2's.


If an amplifier can double down into lower impedances, they'll likely list those specs as bragging rights. If an amplifier can't double down (or come reasonably close) into lower impedances, It's less likely they'll list those specs because they're not proud of them.