D'yall think my non-audiophile ears are going to hear a dramatic difference between my current Denon AVR1404 and the Yamaha A-S801?
Itching for better sound
Pretty happy with sound through my Sennheiser HD700s listening through headphone amp to classical CDs on Marantz CD6006...but too much headphone listening makes my ears buzz, so I want to start listening more through speakers.
Could set up either the Marantz or a NAD 516bee cd player, connected with RCA to an old Denon AVR1404 receiver to speakers. My PSB speakers are fair. What I want to know is how much will a pair of Kef LS50s improve my sound? Is my $800cdn (used) better spent on something else--other speakers or another component?
Could set up either the Marantz or a NAD 516bee cd player, connected with RCA to an old Denon AVR1404 receiver to speakers. My PSB speakers are fair. What I want to know is how much will a pair of Kef LS50s improve my sound? Is my $800cdn (used) better spent on something else--other speakers or another component?
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Short answer, yes you should hear a significant improvement by swapping the AVR for an integrated stereo amp. But I have to ask, why do you need two sets of speaker output terminals? Anyway, with the Denon you’re not only using a compromised amp but also, at least as importantly, a compromised preamp. By compromised I mean that they’re designed to meet a competitive price point, so expensive yet crucial electrical components — such as power supplies, etc. — are usually of lower quality and significantly affect the quality of the resulting sound reproduction. The amp/pre sections are also bombarded by a litany of other noisy electronics necessary for an AVR to do all the things it needs to do (DAC, digital signal processing, etc.) as they all reside in the same case. So by adding a dedicated integrated stereo amp you get higher quality components, more focused and accomplished circuitry and design, and less inherent noise you’re likely to hear a notable improvement, especially as your speakers are refined and revealing enough to convey such differences. Things such as bass weight and definition, cleaner and extended treble detail and air, image separation and solidity, soundstage width/depth/height, ability for sound to separate from the physical speakers themselves, tonal richness and shadings, micro/macro dynamics, as well as overall transparency should all improve markedly. And when you combine all these improvements it results in a totally different and more believable, involving, and more rewarding listening experience. Lastly, one of the reasons I recommended the Sphinx is that it comes from a very highly regarded designer/manufacturer with an impeccable reputation for service, and it benefits from the trickle down of technology and design implementation from its more expensive siblings in the Rogue lineup. And although it’ll sound great with its stock input tube, you have the flexibility to change the inexpensive tube to custom tailor the sound to your specific liking. Moreover, it’s good enough to reward you for any speaker upgrades you make in the future, and as the Sphinx doubles its power output to 200Wpc at 4 Ohms impedance it has the juice to easily drive just about any speaker you throw at it. But, amps are still a personal choice based on individual personal tastes, so I thought this excerpt from a CNET review of the Yammy A-S801 might help put things in perspective and help with your decision... “While the A-S801’s competence was never in doubt it lacks the more "robust" character of the $1,295 Rogue Sphinx amp’s sound. The Sphinx is a cool running vacuum tube/Class D hybrid design that sounds like a classic 1980s high-end integrated amplifier. The Sphinx is rated at 100 watts per channel for 8 ohm speakers, 200 watts per for 4 ohm speakers. There’s more body and soul to the Sphinx sound, the A-S801 is tonally cooler and lighter on its feet. Which one is better? I prefer the Sphinx, but tastes vary, you might go for the A-S801.” Hope this helps, and best of luck. |
Thanks so much for that thorough explanation. As a non-audiophile, it's hard for me to figure out how amp and not speakers will make the biggest difference, but I've listened to all the people here. For a number of reasons, I often like to have the same music playing in two rooms, hence the two sets of speakers. |
Heresy IIIs are indeed a high end speaker and reveal what's in front of them beautifully and very efficiently with, of course, all sorts of music from BB to Britton (no good speaker system is "music specific")...very balanced and coherent sound, and now perhaps less expensive since Heresy IVs were released recently. A bargain great sounding speaker. Don't trust the opinions of old white dudes in red ties, have a listen for yourself. |
The A+B Speaker terminals is the only thing holding me back from trying a Sphinx - I've heard consistently great things. I use the Yamaha with 4x 6ohm speakers in a large, 500 sqft room. Sometimes I turn it up really loud. It doesn't break a sweat. My upgrade path was Yamaha AVR -> Marantz PM6005 -> Rotel Int -> Classic NAD Int -> Yamaha A-S801. Those other amps didn't last long in the room. The Yamaha has been here for 2 years. The Yamaha leaves little to desire. Good luck! |
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