2. amps-preamps
  3. 153739-140688

Help in putting together my system with used equipment on Audiogon and eBay.

I’m looking for the best bang for the buck. What equipment can I find that would make the best system for my budget ($8000)? I'm starting out with:

Pass Labs X1 Preamp, my rock to start with. I got it for $2500 This is where you can help me the most. Let me know your best match for this pre-amp, or the ones you have found to be the best you have heard!

Bryston 4B SST amp for about $1700. It’s been my experience that more power wakes up a speaker and pins it’s ears back. At 300wpc and the reviews on this amp I picked it, but just to start. I really need some experienced people to give me recommendations for the amp, or if the Bryston is a winner. I can sell this for a better amp.

Do I need a DAC?

Phono. I’ve realized that might be a big reason why people go to separates isn’t it? I’d like to hear some comments on this. If you have separates and no phono, what do you use? Stream music? CD’s?

CD player? I do have a lot of CD’s. With separates, it’s either phono, cd, or streaming correct?

I’m not really a phono guy, but I know which albums I would buy so it is an option. I wouldn’t know a good phono if you hit me with it. Please recommend a few.

I’m leaning toward B&W speakers just because of their reputation. I may spend up to 5k on a good pair of speakers, but I want them to be used and costing much more when bought new. I know how to spot a good deal and not buy speakers on their death bed (from reputable sellers), but I need your recommendations too. You all have heard more speakers than I ever have and will.

**I’m going to check this post often and answer any questions and write down your recommendations.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE FOR THIS, IT IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME!
128x128imabucfan
sfseay's avatar
sfseay
496 posts
 
Do not waste money on tweaks as the additional benefit would be low to nil.  Focus on your core system and spend at least 50% of your budget on speakers.  I recommend you go digital to eliminate the hassle of turntable setup and the expense and headaches that go along with them.  

A Lumin D2 will fit within your budget and give you a very nice streamer DAC.
djones51
4,947 posts
 
+1  @sfseay   if you want to go a little less money to  get your feet wet in streaming try a Node2i and get a subscription to Tidal or other service you'll  have millions of songs at your fingertips. If it does what you want you can look at a better streamer down the road , if not you're  not out much as you can sell the Node. 
geoffkait's avatar
geoffkait
23,365 posts
 
What’s all this ruckus? Oh, it’s only the Frick and Frack tweakaphobes. 🦸‍♂️🦸🏻‍♂️
imabucfan's avatar
imabucfan OP
52 posts
 
So everything I have read about separates being much better for audiophile quality music is false?

I would rather stream than buy lots of vinyl if the quality is close enough. I have zero vinyl to start with. I can continue on to the streaming aspect unless someone convinces me vinyl is the only way to go. Please recommend a streamer (or phono if you say turntable can't be beat).

Assuming everyone thinks the Pass and Bryston are worthy (for now) I am considering the Pass Labs X250 for upgrade later. The amp is so important I would consider everyone’s suggestions for an amp to match the Pass X1. This is the part I need your experience in. I have read mixing and matching preamp and amp are just as important in musical definition quality. I just want to use XLR cables for balanced input.

I do want my speakers to be worthy of this system and will overspend on my budget to get the right speakers. B&W, Martin Logan, etc. if you see a pair worthy on Audiogon or eBay worth looking at please give me the name. As long as it doesn’t cost as much as a second mortgage. Regardless of the cost of everything else I will pay up to 5k for a pair of speakers that hopefully cost much more brand new (if they are still being made!).

Thank you for the comments so far!


sfseay's avatar
sfseay
496 posts
 
Separates and integrateds have their pluses and minuses. I recently went back to separates from an integrated and have no regrets.

Take all opinions you read here with a grain of 🧂. Many of the people that post here just make noise and challenge everyone else’s assumptions. You can learn a lot on this forum, but there are better forums where you get more wheat and less chaf.
More to discover