@ mrtennis,I disagree with your comparisons of the marantz and vincent, I know something of the vincent you have never tried!, resonance tunning!, there is not a marantz now or ever that will better the bass and 3-dimensionality of the vincent cd-s7!, The marantz players are 2-dimensional sounding, they will never have the full body of the vincent player!, using the vincent by its self has a different sound, put a 2 inch thick by 10 inches long by 6 inches phone book on top of the vincent player and move it around to tailor your tast is astounding!, the marantzes will not do that!, I have had many players, none of them has the dimensionality, deep sound stage, The Body!, huge sound stage as the vincent player, LOL!, defiantly no marantz!, Grey9hound, I gurantee you that the vincent player with tunning is extremly better than the marantz period, thats my opinion, what do I know,LOL!