Cartridge loading


Presently I am using a ZU/Denon DL103 mc cartridge with ZU Audio's highest tolerances.  I had this cartridge mounted on my VPI Prime and after going through all the various loading combinations, I settled on 200 ohms.  I was always satisfied with my choice of setting.  I no longer have the Prime and now use the Technics SL1200G turntable.  After having the same cartridge mounted and aligned by the dealer, I inserted it into my system and enjoyed the sound immensely, never touching the 200 ohm setting.

Yesterday I was listening to vinyl most of the day and for some reason I found the sound to be better than ever, mostly in the treble area.  The highs had shimmer when needed and I had played the same records many times before on the Prime and they never sounded as good as they did yesterday.  Just for the heck of it, I checked the cartridge loading and found it was now set at 1000 ohms.  As I said, when I put the Technics into the system, I never bothered changing the loading which was at 200 ohms as it was the same cartridge, just a different turntable.

I believe I know what happened, when I last used the tone controls on my McIntosh preamp, (you have to shuffle through a menu) I must have inadvertently put the cartridge loading at 1000 ohms.  It truly sounds fantastic, better than I ever thought possible.  The Bass is still very deep and taut, midrange is the same but the treble, oh my, so much better.  Now the million dollar question is why should it now sound better at 1000 ohms, when it sounded great before at 200 ohms?  Can the tonearm on the Technics have an effect on cartridge loading?  I always thought it was all dependent on the preamp, amp and speakers.  What am I missing here?  I am very curious to know.  The specs for my cartridge say greater than 50 ohms for loading.

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About 3 days ago i hooked up my current-injection phonostage (47 Labs Phonocube) to my system and i was blown away! We were sitting here with a friend of mine who often comes to my apartment. Even him is quite familiar with the sound coming from my two Luxman PD-444 turntables with various tonearms and cartridges, using different phono stages. Prior to that we already selected our "cartridge of the month" just for fun, it was an MI cartridge (Grado Signature XTZ) connected to WLM Reference phono stage with upgraded load resistors (100k Ohm Vishay). The second best was LOMC Fidelity-Research FR-7fz connected via Luxman toroidal silver SUT to JLTi 47k Phono stage, probably it was too bright.

I want to tell you that same FR-7fz on FR-64fx with W-250 counterweight and N-60 stabilizer never ever sounded as good as with the 47 Labs Phonocube phonostage. The impedance of this cartridge is 5 Ohm, the output is 0.24mV. Prior to that i have tried this cartridge with Gold Note PH-10 phonostage direct, with WLM and JLTi direct, also with ZYXCPP-1 headamp and with two different SUTs too.

With 47 Labs Phonocube the cartridge became so alive and emotional contact with the music is so strong that i can clearly say this is the best phono stage i have ever heard. We did the same next night and again and again... My feeling is like i’m right there with musicians, the sound is so dynamic and open that it’s a kind of psychedelic experience. The rest of the chain is passive Pass Aleph L preamp and First Watt F2J current source power amp, upgraded Zu Audio Druid mk4 speakers with latest Zu Audio drivers (101db) and Radian super tweeters.

What i am gonna say here:
With current-injection phono stages you don’t have to think about loading at all, no optional loading! But it’s completely different experience with relatively low impedance LOMC cartridges. And i did not try my Phonocube with Miyabi cartridge yet, so i can only imagine the result, because it was designed for Miyabi. I decided to check FR-7fz with Phonocube because i am using this cartridge in my system often and i thought i knew its character.

I believe our @lewm experienced something similar with his new current injection device with his MC2000.

My advice to others:
FORGET ABOUT CARTRIDGE LOADING!
Look for current injection phono stages for your low impedance LOMC cartridge, there are quite a few on the market. None of the conventional phono stages with optional loading in my arsenal (like the Gold Note PH-10 with PS-10 or JLTi mk4 for exampe, or my WLM Phonata Reference) are even close to the sound coming from the current injection little phonocube (without optional loading).

I am using original Phonocube, but here is a DIY version with schematic (to read how it works). 


I bought a BMC MCCI current injection phono stage 2 months ago and agree with your assessment . I just had a Lyra Claves De Capo repaired By Steve @  VAS  . Best vinyl playback in my system to date . 2 ohm & 0.25 mv  stunning 
Raul, Intactaudio made measurements of frequency response and IM distortion, I think. You are here reporting your subjective impression, which is fine, but there’s a big difference. 
Dear @lewm  :  Not subjective you are wrong. Here is the very first intact audio post in the thread when he shared the IAR PM findings on the loading subject:

"""  Being the Skeptic that I am I repeated his tests and confirmed his results..  """


R.
Raoul,

Yes...  I confirmed the results via measurement.  I did not put forth any listening impressions.

To be clear the stage that Lew M is using is not a current amp in the true definition of the term.  Its circa 20Ω input Z is multiples enough of his cartridge internal impedance that it acts as a traditional voltage amplification stage.