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Preamp Output Capacitor: Mundorf Supreme vs. Supreme Silver Oil

Anyone compared the bass response of these two caps?  I bought the Supremes for trial purposes and really loved what they did to my system's imaging (front to back layering) and immediately bought the Silver Gold Oil Supremes.  Unfortunately while they were smoother, more beautiful, and even better at imaging, they had no bass (actually, they lost bass as they broke in).  Anyone know how the Silver Oil's fit into the line?  

I'm using them in a Don Sach's DS2 Preamp ( https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7983).  

Thanks.
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grannyring
6,467 posts
 
Depends what you are looking for. The Odam & CuTF combo from Vcap will be more open, vibrant, dynamic, resolving, 3D and far better bass. The copper foils from Jupiter, Miflex, Auydn and others will give you more rounded warmth.  They are a tad darker. 

I am a big Jupiter copper foil cap fan, but the Vcap combo is just better sounding to me in the ways I mentioned above. They also deliver the goods with nice warmth and richness. 



1markr
594 posts
 
Thanks Bill @grannyring ; good info to ponder.  I do like the warmth in my system now, and your description resonates with how I view my system as well, so I am guessing that changing to the Odam / CuTF combo may bring only minor incremental changes.  If I didn't already the Jupiters, or the Audyn, I'd definitely try the Odam / CuTF.
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kalali
1,977 posts
 
Sorry if I’m asking the obvious but when changing brands do you always use the same exact uF value as replacement/upgrade? I suspect the answer is yes but I still wondered if the different material construction, design technology, etc., or even the desired sonic outcome, might positively impact the outcome if a slightly lower or higher values were substituted instead. 
c_avila1
185 posts
 
@grannyring I completely agree with your assessment of the ODAM. 

@kalali and @1markr  As good as the Jupiter and Audyn True Copper caps may be, the ODAM may possibly provide better synergy for your system. Don't be discouraged from replacing high quality caps for the ODAM. Experimentation is the only way that you'll truly know what sounds best for your system. 
alexberger
900 posts
 
Hi @c_avila1 ,

I’m agree with you. Everyone has their own system and taste. So the best way to try by yourself in your system.

@kalali ,
IMHO, the value accuracy of coupling capacitors is not so important. Is doesn’t matter to much if cutoff frequency 1 Hz or 2, 3 Hz.
The quality and sound signature is much more important!
The other story in crossovers and RIAA correction where accuracy is the must.

Regards,
Alex.
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