Your opinions about KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION


Hi I plane to buy a new cartridge, a KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION. But I would like to get your opinions on what is really the diffrences with BLUE and VERMILLION , Speaking of sound of course. I listen to all kind of musique, classical, very heavy rock. My others cartridges are ZYX OMEGA and BENZ LPS, do you think that the KOETSUs will get the same bass power than my others cartridges ?
Thanx


andychris
Mulveling, The Rosewood Signature Platinum weights 3 to 4 grams less than a stone bodied cartridge and requires a heavier tonearm to get the same bass impact. Bass and "impact" are the two most sensitive characteristics of a cartridge, the easiest to mess up. Resonance tuning is a real issue here. I think a lot of people miss out on it because most systems just do not go down that low. Not trying to insult anyone but it is hard and expensive to get a speaker/room to go below 40 Hz effectively. I had to build my own house to get it right. Anyway, the RSP bops just fine if you get that resonance frequency down under 10 Hz. I have never compared it directly to a stone bodied unit but the motors are the same and the only real difference is the mass of the cartridge which can be compensated for. Trying to put a stone bodied Koetsu in an arm as heavy as the 4 point 14 would be asking for it. The arm would go airborne with the first warp. I believe the stone bodies came along to make the cartridges perform better in the lighter tonearms that most of us use which are compatible with the majority of cartridges that are of medium compliance.
Chakster, they charge that much because they can get away with it. There are also several middle men. I think Ortofon has much better quality control. My Ortofon Windfeld Ti will track circles around my Koetsu and is by all accounts more neutral. 
@mijostyn 
I've run the RSP on a Fidelity Research 64fx, an FR 64S with a 20g Ikeda headshell (that's more than enough mass for anything), and a Graham Phantom II Supreme. I think the stones are better. 
I have never heard the Vermillion, but have owned the Sky Blue.
The Sky Blue had good dynamics and real bass "slam", but was a bit too euphonic for my taste, mounted in an SME V. 
I’ve got a Vermillion which I use in an FR66s arm; it’s a really nice cartridge, very holographic, great dynamics, excellent tracking and minimal edge or nastiness to the sound.
Compared to my other Koetsu, a Jade with diamond cantilever, I’d say the Jade has a more “authoritative” feel. With the Jade you get the same as the Vermillion in terms of all the things listed above, but there’s something more explosive and solid about it (in a good way :)). One thing that is palpable is the lower frequencies with the Jade, the bass is really good, the best of all of my cartridges in that regards. That’s not at the expense of midrange or higher frequencies , just something that really stands out.


tkr, it is that euphoric quality that some of us love about the Koetsu's. You would have to add a lot of weight to the SME V to get the bass right.
I use my Koetsu for string quartets and the like not for R+R and rarely for Jazz. The other cartridges I use are more neutral and to my ear more accurate not to mention better trackers (more accurate is not equal to better sounding.) 
mulveling, I certainly can not argue with your opinion. The FR's are certainly heavier arms. I would never use a Koetsu in a uni pivot arm. Actually, I would never use anything in a uni pivot arm so I guess that is not saying much.