Frustrated with Vinly

This forum should be the exchange of knowledge and ideas, but when your individual opinion becomes so extreme that you are now forcing the other to defend themselves, its WRONG!

@antinn I do not force anyone, but trying to provide some facts, links, technical information, prices in comparison etc .. which is all helpful in my opinion, anyone can compile it together and make a decision.

But it is all based on my personal experience only, why not ?

If i am not in America does it really change anything ? It is only more difucult for me to buy anything that available in America in many shops, so living in America you can go to the shop to try those turntable and to compare them, i did that myself. I can not be you or anyone else to choose plastic belt drive for $2k instead of decent direct drive for $1.7k ... sorry.

Does it hurts your feeling each time anyone recommend Technics ?
I’ve been using mine since 1995 and it is still working like new (not in the main system now).

I love Technics, it is true, but not only this brand. However at the price point under $2k i can’t personally recommend anything else (apart from some better vintage direct drives). If you can do that please recommend your own choice of turntable on this forum and explain why, this would be helpful for OP to make a decision.

Otherwise i do not see your contribution in this thread or am i missed something ?

Let me do that again and you please tell me what is wrong:

-made in japan for $1700 (entire turntable)
-great tonearm, detachable headshell (easy to mount and swap cartridges without breaking tonearm wire clips)
-high torque, superb speed stability
-brand new direct drive servo from the most experienced brand in audio history (matsushita)
-high weight, heavy platter, adjustable feet
-pitch control
-RCA phono output
-easy to re-sell if needed

Chaksterk 

If you you read the earlier posts of this thread, I provided a detailed cleaning process.  Otherwise, being sensitive and trying to read between the lines of what Jay's desire is, my recommendation would be a fine American product, the Sota Commet V,   https://sotaturntables.com/products/comet-v/.  It is in his budget, the design I would think, but I may be wrong, is compatible with his desires.  Its a  great product from a long standing supplier, that he can call on the phone and discuss, get go long term support, and they have an upgrade path to serve him on his journey.

@antinn

Oh, the cleaning, ok ... forgive me.
I do not blame you because you recommend Sota, cleaning records .. or because you’re living in America and prefer local products.

Being Japanese the Technics is very well represented in USA since the 70’s.

Most of out record made with Technics motor, because Neumann disc cutting lathe comes with Technics SP-02 motor.

So i think Technics was (and still is) much more important for the vinyl industry than any other small brands.

And using Technics no one will be frustrated with vinyl.  

Passing your biased opinions off as fact , doesnt make them facts. You insult owners..belittle anyones property that doesnt fit your idiotic direct drive biased drivel. There are many many good tables of all drives.
This is a hobby best made as inclusive...not exclusive based on perceived value. Which in reality Chakster..you dont have. Every choice has an opinion and a reason for and why....and it isnt because you say so or exclude them as owners of toys and all the other negative crap you spew constantly. The owner of the belt drive you negate brings a 100 times more than you do...its positivity and inclusivity...try it before your island is complete.....
And for the record...the only thing the cartridge can do...is what everything its attached right down to the floor allow it to do....funny , thats why some find those technics tables cold and digital like...but thats an opinion based on their ears and first hand experience....
How many of those NEW Technics tables do you own and for how long....oh...your just repeating what anyone else could read...then apply thick bias.....

Chakster, 

First my applogies for my miss spelling of your handle, so much for my fat fingers.  Otherwise, to address my opinion of the Technics 1210GR, as an engineer, I can appreciate the engineering that has been applied.  But, I am no fan of it looks (I have a modified VPI TNT), and obviously neither is Jay.  And that is the point.  Your recommendation is one thing, but when you become so passionate as to defend it, if takes on a whole other perspective.  Hopefully, we make our best recommendation to someone when they ask, but if they do not see it the same way, that is their right.  We have no right to force the argument, since it it can then be precieved as an attack.  All persons are entitled to their pursuit of what makes THEM happy whether we agree or not.