MHDT Orchid or Lampizator Amber 3?

I may be misinterpreting what each of you are saying about the Amber 3 but it seems like to distinctly different takes on this DAC's sound

cal3713 - " more detail or "wake up" your system, I think you would prefer the Amber 3."

grannyring " My preference is for full bodied warmth over detail"

Feel free to correct me

Yes, cal3713, please send your dac to Bill next week! I'd love to hear how he thinks it compares to the modded Orchid dac as well, which I also have. Inquiring minds need to know. :-)  

The Amber 3 along the long burn in time is sounding more full bodied and less "wake up" your system in my opinion. I found the Amber 3 too vivid and "wake up your system" sounding up to some 120 hours. That is now changing and the unit is sounding more and more full bodied and organic. This dac needs time, plus 200 hours, to really hear what she sounds like. This is my belief based on my experience.

If forced to give a final judgement at 120 hours, then I would have said the Amber 3 is just too vivid for me in the presence area for long term listening. Right now, closer to 180 hours, I no longer feel this way based on listening.
So I do not think we are saying different things. Just a matter of timing and burn in realities. I really cannot deal with bright or tipped up midrange and highs.

I also think system synergy is playing a role here. My system has been tweaked and voiced to be full bodied, slightly warm and never forced or forward sounding. The Amber 3 placed in my rig would most likely sound less bright or vivid than in another system that is voiced to be more revealing and detailed.

@facten I don't think there's much inconsistency there, despite the apparent discrepancy at first glance.  My speakers err on the side of detail and liveliness, and it seems that Bill's may instead start off on the side of liquid smoothness.  Add in more smoothness to an already smooth system and you may end up with too much.  As such, a dac that's a touch more lively could be a better match.  And, of course, perhaps I just couldn't keep the Amber long enough to fully hear it come into its own.  That said, a number of positive reviews for the unit have mentioned its dynamics and energy.  I don't think the AM is lacking in those qualities, but they're also not features that I need my upstream equipment to emphasize given the realities of my speakers.  

Like Bill and @rx8man , I prefer a warm, liquid sound, but have to fight a bit against the Coincident's accuton ceramic drivers to get there. I certainly know *every time* that a component (or cable, or fuse, or capacitor) pushes me too far towards analytic or detailed.  The AM is really key to bringing that liquid character that I want, while maintaining a wonderful, holographic imaging that I also value.  

@grannyring And I would love to share the AM with you.  If you ever have an alternative dac (another modified Orchid??) on hand to send my way while you're using the AM (or I end up travelling for a couple weeks), I'd be happy to work something out.  Always happy to try out new gear... plus we've already both bought equipment from each other, so it feels nice and safe.