Disappointing On Mcintosh......help

cydrone
Is that the "warm" sound people reffer to about Mcintosh?  
The sound is ample, base is powerfull but the the sound is simply not to clear, the hights are not too "crisp" It sounds like the treble is set at 3 and needs to be adjusted at 9 or 10.
It seems like the sound is coming through a thin layer of paper ...that is the way I describe that sound.  

Then 20 minutes later I auditioned a Parasound A21+ and a JC5 and the sound was more clear and the highs were crispier

Whats your take on my experience? or That is the MC "warm sound?

It's why a tube amp's most challenging/degrading component is it's output transformer, (and why Mac's sound like that). Why OTL's kill them but also have their own problems

They're (Mac's) are soft and cuddly, dynamically challenged, and frequency extreme neutered.
Why someone would want to put an output transformer on a "perfectly good designed" solid state amp, is a wonder.
All it serves to do is make it sound like the above tubes, does make it bomb proof though, or it can also hide that the solid state amp is a bad design without the use of the transformer. 

Cheers George  

Heard McIntosh w sonus Faber.

 Delightful, about put me to sleep. A nice sound, relaxing,
i do not like shrill at all.

Delightful, about put me to sleep. A nice sound, relaxing,
i do not like shrill at all.

So is Mall and lift music.
Cheers George

@georgehifi 

they auditioned Animals by pink floyd, and a few songs from The Wall. it sounded amazing, i mentioned in another post, this is the same time i brought my then 2-3 year old grumpy kid in a stroller with me to audition.

 As soon as the music started playing, he stopped crying , this is a no BS truth. he made a few whimpers, but after i swear less than 20 seconds, he was silent, and his eyes were heavy, falling asleep, i myself was kicking back next to him, and was so relaxed, the tone, sound, was just amazing.  i can not afford macintosh, or songs faber, this is why.
  
  i was enveloped and thought the sound was absolutely amazing.

 naysayers be darned, it was a great relaxing, warm, sound.

 i may be a lot of things, according to a lot of people, but NOT a liar, or a story teller.

 this is what brought me to my Energy RC-70's, and their extremely warm sound. 

 if i could  have some Mac Monos, i would in a heartbeat!
maybe someday,...... til then, im thoroughly enjoying my other amps and preamps.  

 maybe its just me,......i do not like high pitched, i enjoy the warm sound, as my RC-70s' are rolled off at 600hz or 600 mhz, or whatever they are, im not a know it all,.....i just know when i auditioned the rc-70s' i had goosebumps, and the hair stood up on my arms and neck. THEN I knew i needed them.

their my grails. until i have the money for Dynaudio C-4s'

 enjoy the music !!

So appropriate to me this thread.  6 months ago my Classe SSP-800 failed for the third time.  Decided NOT to waste any more money on old DAC and multi channel extras.  So I set off to find a new DAC and Pre amp, and love warm smooth sounding music WITH great resolution and clarity.  I know.  Like many I was drawn to McIntosh and stopped by Binghamton NY to audition the new pre amps.  So many terms here strike a chord with me, especially the blanket analogy!  Veiled, dull etc also.  And to be fair the SF speakers are that way to me as well, and I have auditioned them with nice electronics.  So then, as I was still looking, I had the opportunity to bring a C2700 tube preamp home for trial.  Same thing.  Veiled, warm, dull.  I bought an Auralic Vega G2 DAC and an AudioNet Preamp.  Amazing.  So resolving, but non fatiguing.  Doesn't put me to sleep because it is interesting.  With my Classe CA2300 amp they bring my Revel Ultima 2 Salon 2's to life.  I did want to like the Mcintosh though.... and those Sonus Faber's are so pretty...  :) Ken