@djones51 I recently demoed the Matrix X-Sabre Pro and unfortunately found it one of the least compelling of the DACs I was trying (Audio Mirror T3 SE, iFi iDSD pro, Lampizator Amber 3, Shiit Bifrost 2, & PS Audio Directstream). It sounded mellow and smooth with no noise, but didn't really build a 3 dimensional soundstage. I found it a little grey and sterile and always just wanted to switch over and listen to one of the other dacs whenever it was up in the rotation. That said, Apos audio gives you no-hassle 30-day free auditions, so if you're interested you can give it a shot fairly easily. [P.S. Of those DACs, the Audio Mirror sounded best in my system.]