Home Theater Done Right: Millercarbon's System

Mahgister
You think YOU have a bad room?
You need to try and tame mine...lol.

About 16x12 with a heavily sloped ceiling about 12 ft high at the speaker end down to about 9ft at listener end.

All glass walls, seriously its a converted Florida sunroom, double large French glass doors back into main house.
Tiled floor but it is on solid concrete bed.
Wooden blinds on every window, three large squishy sofas with cushions and throws, large near full size floor rug. Helps tremendously with taming all the stray reflections.
Equipment is all off to the right had side corner due to the double French doors opening in. Speakers are out about 3ft from back and side walls.

However that speaker positioning really works well with the Maggies, add a couple of subs front left and rear right and tbh the SQ has no right to be as good as it is considering the appalling room starting point.

Be interesting to see what Miller could do with this room and I am not being facetious.

uberwaltz

Your description made me rethink about my room... :)


Perhaps mine was not so bad from the start.... :)


One thing is certain Any room can sound good, not perfect, but good yes...


It takes acoustical non conventional methods and conventional one...


It takes the ears to guide you step by step... One at a time...Without my non conventional methods my room will not be so good now tough...


And congratulations for the most difficult room to treat contest and new thread to comes....


By the way with my 6 inches bass drivers Mission speakers, in my treated room, i had so much good bass that I connect my Kreisel subs one hour before disconnecting it without using it anymore....I dont miss 20 or 30 hertz vibrations so much...40 hertz is enough for clavichord and for almost all organ notes ….Without my non conventional acoustical room treatment at the times i have bought this Kreisel subs with excitation... But it is very difficult to adjust subs with speakers also in a rightful manner to gives homogeneous and clear mid frequencies, but we all love rumbles, the reason why I bought the Kreisel at the times :)


Good and powerful room treatment sometimes eliminate the need for a sub... This was my case....And in my experience, cleaning the electrical grid of the house "makes room" for the acoustical optimal treatment of the room... All three embeddings are linked together... :)

My friendly salutations...

By the way millercarbon has one of the most good looking audio system I have seen here and with good sound I bet...I am a bit envious :) ...Hopefully my sound is amazing also, if not, I would kill myself after looking at it... I like the way cables are cleanly guided to the gear particularly...I cannot use this method here tough...All my cables are separated but on a wall near each other without touching ...

My friendly salutations...

Belief in ones own handiwork is a very powerful antidote to getting the best sound possible. Two obvious examples I can think of are Helmholtz resonators are easily overdone. And wires running together even though they don’t touch are still affecting each other electrically.

“Because it’s what I choose to believe.” - Harpo Marx

“You may think you know what’s going on Mr. Geddes, but believe me you don’t.” - Noah Cross to the detective Jake Geddes in Chinatown.

geoffkait

I know you are often right...This is the differences between me and some others about your sayings... :)

Remember that I dont pretend my audio system is absolutely optimal, but that it converge asymptotically to this peak yes I know it... Is there other fields than the mechanical one, the acoustical one, and the electrical one ? Yes there is...

Belief in ones own handiwork is a very powerful antidote to getting the best sound possible.

I quote one of your best observation to date for me...This quote I makes mine deserve to be a classical one...My goal is the best musical experience possible and comes a times when I forget about the best sound...I am in this time or near it indeed... I listen more than I study now I confess... :)
And to makes thing worst I am very proud of my homemade low cost solutions effectivity... :)


For the Helmholtz resonators, I know what you speak about, i had to do several tests...For the wires you are right, but actually it is impossible in my space to do better...


The end is near , the base camp is under my eyes, the summit over my head for sure...But compared to most at least I had taken the journey... :)

" Why are you mute? Because I have choosen to believe my ears" - Grumman Marx


My friendly salutations...

The idea that  "Home Theater industry has chosen to pursue quantity over quality" is misguided.  With few exceptions less expensive equipment, designed to bring affordability to the market, should generally not be compared to components costing far more.  There are exceptions. Companies like Boston Acoustic offer a nice product that performs quite nicely against many over rated and far more expensive alternatives. The term "Home Theater" should never be a synonym for poor quality at any price point.  Sound is sound. In reality good execution of a multi-channel system can more difficult to achieve than a simple 2 channel system at any price point.  Multiple amplifiers, speaker placement, effect channel processing, advanced room correction, the list is long.  The Lucas Film THX project headed by Tomlinson Holman did much to advance realism as it pertains to all types of sound.  George Lucas has always maintained that sound represents 50% of the motion picture experience and music has always been a major contributing factor.