Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
Orpheus, I do not use pc audio, listen only to original cd's and I am also very carefull which editions I buy.
Changed few systems in last decade, at one point had all Burmester top of the line set up (except speakers), also my last cd/sacd player was Dcs with added clock, it would be rude to even mention its price and still I find the music from even modest analog rig more 'natural' in lack of better word, never mind the rest, which when evaluated in audiophile terms could be perceived as 'better' sound.
Music on sacd's, new production is great, but old production on that format, even when its from Analogue productions still cant beat good lp, imho
If I could afford it, I would buy only records and would have only analog set up,

Frogman, do you like RVG's editions or not? 
Maybe its a silly questions, in sense that they contain such essential music, that sometimes sound becomes less important,no matter the paradox of that sentence
alex,

My friend has a turn table and tube preamp (phono) and tube amp. He has decent speakers. He lives an hour from me so I'm not over there much. The last time I went was to listen to that Joe Pass LP you sent me.

The music sounded great on the TT setup. Most of my digital music also sounds great to me. Not all but most. It depends on the source. 

If I was in a better financial situation, with more free time, I would probably try a good analog set - up. That not being the case I have an Oppo SACD player, a top of the line Yamaha AVR, Emotiva 200 wpc for front R and L tower speakers, and 2 matched subwoofers. I switch to the towers and subs for music in "pure audio" sound (stereo and mono)

I have a 5:2 setup. All speakers are the JBL Studio L series released in 2005. I have the L-890 towers front R - L, LC2 center, L820 surrounds, and 2 L8400P subwoofers(600 Watts continuous 1200 watts peak internal digital amp). When listening to music I have a total of 400 watts through the front towers via the 85 pound Emotiva amp (true 200 wpc@ 8ohms) and 1200 watts continuous 2400 watts peak power with the dual subs. 

My whole rig was around 5k which was perfect for me. The 7 JBL speakers was the most expensive part of my gear.




Alex, I think you answered your own question: “essential music”. I think the author of the linked article feels much the same way that I do and why I referred to it as a realistic assessment. 

I love many RVG recordings and my format preferences are exactly like yours. I buy recordings first and foremost for the music and if the sound quality is great that is icing on the cake. Of course, I prefer and choose a particular edition of a recording that I want that is known to have superior sound whenever possible ($?). However, to be honest, I don’t pay as much attention, time or money to that aspect of record collecting as the quality of my all tube audio system might suggest. My preference is still a good sounding quiet Lp pressing for the reasons that you point out, but I buy CD’s of new as well as reissued music simply because that is the only format that the music is available in. Unlike the moderate amount of attention that I pay to Lp pressing differences I pay little to no attention to different CD versions. I am well aware of the differences in sound quality of different CD reissues; but since like you I find a decent Lp pressing to sound more natural than even the better CD’s, I don’t pay that much attention to different CD versions. That may seem like strange logic, but that is my approach and I’m sure that the very good quality of my turntable setup has a lot to do with it. Perhaps stranger still, but I find at least some value in hearing the “inferior” sound of some recordings. There are general recorded sound aesthetics that are representative of different historical periods in the music, different labels and different engineers and in some ways I enjoy the context that some of these recordings put the music in. In some cases these “dated” recordings offer a certain type of unadulterated musical detail that I enjoy. My collection consists of approximately 2,500 Lp’s and a few hundred CD’s.

The greatness of the music on so many of RVG’s recordings goes without saying. From the standpoint of sound I really like many of his recordings; some not as much. I don’t particularly like the general sound aesthetic of some of his CTI recordings and prefer the less produced, more natural sounding recordings like some of his Prestige and Blue Note’s. For me, some of RVG’s very best sound wise are his Prestige mono’s like Sonny Rollins “Saxophone Colossus” and Miles’ “Working/Steaming” sessions; beautifully natural sound. One of my favorite Blue Note stereos sound wise is an OP favorite, Cannonball’s (really a Miles session) “Somethin Else”. Iconic recording engineer.

I hope that was a fairly “straight” answer to your question. Regards.


Paul. sometimes less is more. 
Like I said, I have had few systems and not long ago I had Dcs Puccini with clock,as source, with Arc Ref 3 and Avantgarde Acoustic active speakers.
With music that we discuss here (all older production) I have discovered that many recordings have become less enjoyable, meaning that I could hear all the 'details', including the limits of recordings and masterings.
Usually I know all the players on some record, than I had to remember the mastering engineenir as well.

I think that trend in industry (as I listen to different systems that my frineds have) is such that many new gear is 'less musical' and 'more analytical'.

My choice now is all tubes, p.single ended amp and preamp, together with speakers that have higher impedance (8ohm min)

Like I said, if I could find and get all music that I like on vinyl, I would not look for anything else.

Frogman, have nothing to add. Perhaps only that I have many Verve remasters, usually great sound, much better than RVG last edition of remasters ( older Blue Note editions sound much better to me)