Higher End DACs


I am looking for a DAC (potentially streamer&DAC) to be paired in a mcintosh system (c1100/611). Its my first foray into digital streaming and I have no need for a CD player.

I see a lot of love for Esoteric, however, most seems to be around their transports? Are they not as renowned for pure digital streaming and/or standalone DACs? I see DCS (for instance) often referenced for standalone DACs - how does Esoteric compare?
ufguy73
I will have the Bartok for tests soon. I am looking for hiend streamer not particularly for dac but...
I am using Dave with Blu. What a nonsense to use Dave with M-scaller. M-scaller is for TT2, Hugo2 maybe... but Dave? Suffice to say that Dave is another level device when used with Blu.
I was asking Lumin about x1 limited only to streaming functions but they said it is a corporate secret (next products). Man, most of the worlds you red in previous posts are crap. Stop asking and start listening for yourself. You can change voice characteristic of you system with cables only. Starting from power ones. When you start to talk about HiEnd use ears and brain and forgot about other fantasy stories. Bartok this, Lumin that... such stupid crap. Thrust your ears first.
At this moment I do not advise any DAC separately. Because of our modified Lumin players outperform them all easily.

When we modify a Lumin and use a modified power supply, it surpasses all DACS in dynamics, layering, and details. We also outperform them in a much bigger holographic 3-dimensional stage. And a superior individual focus of voices and instruments.

We always ask new clients to bring in their digital source or DAC. We are so far ahead of everyone that it will never become an honest comparison. Even when we play the first song they know our set-up is far superior. An extreme perfectionist always wants to win. 2nd place and less is for all born losers in this world. And has no meaning in my world

People have no idea what the DNA is of most products. Most network players and DACS own a 2D stage DNA. It doesn’t matter which cables you will connect, it still will be 2-dimensional. We can not even change that by modifications.

When manufacturers already made the wrong decisions, consumers can never solve them. We create new levels of quality in all different price ranges. Every modification must have no competition. This means that for the costs it is not possible to create the same level in quality by using the money differently.

Our modified Lumin X1 makes a Lumin X1 out of a box come from another planet and of another league. Perfectionism is also a choice in life. I have a client from Austria and he bought in 2019 a Lumin D2 with an AudioFacts Pro modification (1098 euro) and a modified Sbooster 489 euro together for 3849 euros.

He is a member of an audio club in his country. There were 2 people in his audio club who had a streamer combination of 13000 and 14000 euro. They were seen as the reference players of the audio club. But when he took his modified Lumin D2 and modified Sbooster he outperformed the 13000 and 14000 euro set-ups.

We see it as our task and responsibility to create new standards in audio for prices people can afford. We can think and work so much more precisely thanks to thousands of hours in research. Audio is so complex and most people forgot to learn most aspects who also influence sound&stage.



bo1972...you are unbearably arrogant for no discernible reason. humility is something you might try if you want people to listen to you.
i cannot imagine a worse experience than auditioning gear with you. 
What he says about the Lumin is probably true....Because what he says about audio is my own experience....

But « An extreme perfectionist always wants to win. 2nd place and less is for all born losers in this world. And has no meaning in my world» this is too much for me...

And by the way i already own this "emotional" 3-d immersive musical natural timbre experience with my "loser" audio system....With low cost methods all homemade with few bucks elements I modified myself...I doubt that his zeal to sell something will listen to other possibilities that the possibilities that are already in his world...Anyway I am with the losers of the world, particularly in audio...I want that all people know that it is possible to afford music at very low costs... My best....

" I only enjoy an illusion of my own making"  Groucho Marx


I would say: ask all our clients?

We have so much more respect for them than any other audio company. And we will let them tell their own stories soon. I work in audio over 21 years of time. I have met hundreds of people at home. I can say this; there is not a lot of respect for these people.

Most companies only work for their own greed. You don't even know me. The reason why I spend thousands of hours in research in over 21 years if time is based on the fact that I want to found a foundation for people who have nothing.

In our world, our customers come first. We put ourselves always as last. It is our responsibility that they get the best advice for the money they spend. Maybe other audio companies don't like me. I would advise; WORK HARDER!