Eminent Technology LFT-8b in Harry's system


I recently signed up for the V.P.I. Industries newsletter, and today received my first such. In it, Harry Weisfeld reviews a Grado phono cartridge, but this post concerns one of the speakers he listed as being those he uses to listen to music and evaluate recordings through. All but one are traditional dynamic cones/domes in a box designs, only one being a planar/dipole. That planar is the Eminent Technology LFT-8b. I'm pretty sure Harry could, if he so chose, have instead as his sole planar a pair of $6000 Magneplanar MG 3.7i's, or even $14,000 20.7's. But nope, he instead chose the $2500 ET LFT-8b, imo the greatest value in a loudspeaker on the market. I compared it to the 1.7i, and the difference was dramatic.
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Hi bdp24,

I just saw your post and thought I would respond. 

There is a reason Harry Weisfeld chose the LFT8B's for his planar choice. Bruce Thigpen, the designer of the LFT8B has been designing "out of the box" (no pun intended) audio for decades, just like Harry Weisfeld whom I would imagine has great respect and admiration for Bruce. Bruce, if I'm not mistaken, has 7 patents for his various designs and you can't say that about most audio designer. The LFT8B's have been around for over 3 decades and in all that time I believe he has made only one change to the design, the tweeter was changed to the same exact material that he uses in the midrange driver and extends out to 50K! In other words, he got it right the first time. It's simply a brilliant design. In my opinion, the clarity and transparency is unsurpassed at any price (as long as the equipment upstream is up to the task). When they are set up properly (easier said than done) they are stupid good for the money. 

I bought a pair of the LFT8B's a few years ago and thought they were very good and as I look back at old photos of my system back then I can't believe how good they were with the mediocre equipment I was using (it was all I could afford then). Cambridge stereo amp and preamp which is good gear but not really considered high end by most. I thought I needed the 200 wpc that the Cambridge amp offered. I was wrong.  

Like most audiophiles, after a few years of enjoying them I wanted to try something "better" so I sold them (big mistake) and bought some good box speakers. The speakers I bought were box speakers with dynamic drivers that cost about 4 times what the LFT8B's cost. They were different, that's for sure. They had more slam and socked you in the chest and maybe imaged a little more precisely and they were certainly fun but they lacked that certain musicality that the LFT8B's had and I missed that unbelievable clarity in the midrange and high frequencies. So, after about two years, you guesses it, I sold them and bought the LFT8B's again! I thought, if I liked them back then, I should love them now as my equipment has improved a lot over the years since I had the LFT's. I now own a Pass Labs XA30.8 stereo amp that only has 30 wpc class A and before you all start wining about that not being enough to drive that speaker, let me tell you, your wrong. Not only does it drive them effortlessly but it always remains supremely musical. The moral of that story is, as long as the amp you're pairing them with has a great power supply (like all the Pass Labs amps) with the ability to deliver enough current into a difficult load, properly, don't worry. That XA30.8 amp is a giant killer! 

So that, in my opinion is why why Harry Weisfeld uses the LFT8B's. There are not many speakers out there that are that clean, clear and open sounding and transparent and revealing WITH the musicality that they bring to the party. The low Q woofer in that sealed enclosure blends beautifully with the midrange and tweeter as well. Hats off to Harry for hearing their special quality and the fact that they cost $2500.00 pair is simply a gift. Stupid good!   

Scot

Scot, I went through a similar learning curve back in the mid-70’s. I bought a pair of Magneplanar Tympani T-I’s in ’73, but grew dissatisfied by their slightly opaque lack of transparency and missing bottom octave. In ’74 I replaced them with a pair of Fulton Model J’s, which cured both problems (the J’s had an array of six of the great RTR ESL tweeter, and a transmissionline-loaded woofer that went pretty deep). But I soon missed the qualities large planar loudspeakers excel at, and sold the Fultons, forever after a diehard planar lover and owner.

People continue to ignore the LFT-8, buying Maggies instead. I have nothing against them (I currently own a pair of Tympani T-IVa’s, though I don’t have a room big enough to use them), but compare the LFT-8b to the MG1.7i; if you have already bought a pair of 1.7’s, you’ll wish you hadn’t ;-). The problem is, ET doesn’t have many dealers, so one can’t easily audition them. Luckily, Brooks Berdan Ltd. had a pair (Brooks was a big fan of ET and Bruce Thigpen), where I heard them. ET has a money-back offer on the LFT-8, with I believe a 30-day audition period. I suppose the consumer has to pay the shipping, but to hear the LFT it might be worth it. Consumers without a dealer within 150 miles can buy factory-direct, at list price.

I owned Tympani 1Us, purchased right after they hit the market with rave reviews from HP and others. I set them up right next to my homebrew KEF/RTR speakers described here in 2017. It was no contest; my speakers blew away the Tympanis in every way. Not only were the 1s bass deficient but also the midrange was opaque and the treble was so lacking as to fail to reproduce primary tones in the hf range. Cymbals easily reproduced by the RTR ESL tweeters in my speakers were absent with the Tympani’s. I sold them within a week. This is no slur on modern magnepans with ribbon tweeters, just a comment on how far we’ve come.
Lew, do you remember J. Gordon Holt's reaction to the T-IU? He drew a line on a chart, representing what the speaker's frequency response sounded like to him. It looked like the side profile of the top of a single-hump camel: a midrange hump with the response above and below the hump falling off in both directions. Owners of the T-IU were not happy when the T-IA was soon introduced, incorporating changes made to correct that. The IU could NOT be updated to IA status. 
JGH had it right so far as I am concerned. HP had it wrong although he eventually pointed out the midrange deadness I think.