Doubting Sound Treatment ?


3 years ago I purchased an 11 piece Kit from a reputable company. I noticed improvements, but wasn’t instantly blown away. Now 3 years later I took it all down for a home move. Bass definition noticeably less. Instrument placement less good. Overall coherence less. Not a as intimate. Far less enjoyable, simply put. If your on the fence, get past it. Better improvements with the treatment than most of us hope for when we change Preamp, Amp, or Speakers. Doubt no more !
Cheers ! 
fact33

IMO room treatment is the most important aspect of having great sound. The most money for the buck upgrade . I use asc tube traps . Awesome customer care and they work with you like a architect does when  you are designing your room.
they sent you equipment to measure how ur room sounds from where u listen to music and review with you in real time and recommend changes. Amazing group of people. Shout out to Jordan . Prolly home made stuff are as good but I am sure there are quite a few of us who don’t want to do that .
asc or similar brand all the way . Sound treatment is  no 1 for getting good sound from your room. A music professor who is a piano player in the Cleveland orchestra came to my room and played the piano and was lost for words how good the room sounded . (My listening room is big and has a grand piano in it .) He was so excited that he wanted to have a live trio band play in my room and record it . Vote for investing in sound treatment , done right . 
any Serious DIY would fell own trees for lumber for frames, gin some 40 acre cotton and put mule skin over the foam from the backyard rubber tree...


You left out mine and refine the ore, smelt and cast, shape and sharpen, plant and grow. Evidently in your zeal to ridicule you neglected to consider there might be someone here capable of doing all that. Yeah. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

DIY is Do It Yourself. A practical philosophy in no way associated with extremism. Let alone silly straw man "reasoning". Which you seem to have down to an art.
No no no....mule skins are no longer used.Only the finest rock wool from audiophile rockwool sheep are used in mine;-)
I too received great results after installing prescribed room treatments by GIK. I have a 12x24 bonus room over the garage with a cantilever ceiling that I’ve turned into a HT for the family. Pursuing improvements and upgrades led me to Acoustic Fields - anyone have any experience with them?  They conducted a room analysis and told me the treatments previously prescribed by GIK were not correct for my specific room needs. They’ve provided their suggestions - which is significantly more than the initial GIK investment.  $16k vs $4k.  I believe their analysis to be sound and their products to be of premium quality, but I’m struggling to come to terms with the expense. Does anyone have experience with Acoustic Fields and their products?
I am a doubter no more. It wasn’t that I did doubt room treatment, I was just unsure how much effect it would have in mine, full of furniture, large rug, and ‘stuff’. I didn't see a need for more dampening.

Thus, I went to the basement and found a few sheets of styrofoam, and started temporarily handing them on various wall surfaces, and was surprised by the result, some good, some bad, but a definite affect.

What I didn’t have was anything to use as diffusers, but still, realized there could be a positive to using something more permanent and was willing to experiment further. So, I bought some acoustic tiles, and also a box of 3D tiles, which some had used as diffusion panels in their own listening rooms.

For me, with my Vandy 2CE Sigs about 3’ from the back wall, I ended up with some absorption panels at the rear behind each speaker, and applied the ‘diffuser tiles’ to each side wall *behind* the Vandys, (exactly the reverse of what I thought I would do), and after playing around some more, put up more ‘diffuser tiles to the sides in front of the speakers. And finally more of the ‘diffuser tiles’ on the rear between the speakers.

I believe what I realized was my room was probably ‘dead’, too dampened overall, and the various diffusion panels, along with some absorption directly behind, finally did what has bothered me the most about the Vandy’s in my room after trying all types of things; it actually helped them to, finally, disappear within the soundstage, while also expanding its width and depth by a fair degree. The overall imaging and separation of instruments is far better now than anything I believed I could accomplish with equipment all by itself.

Is it perfect? No, not yet, but glad I took the plunge, because I’m now convinced how much our space, and not treating it, can deprive us of what our equipment is capable of, and how good my music can present itself, at a fraction of the cost of said equipment.