Yg carmel 2 owners

Well, I just saw the Stereophile measurements. The impedance chart was particularly curious. Is there a high pass filter there on the woofer? The rising impedance at 20 Hz, plus the phase angle would suggest so. Perhaps YG is worried about the driver displacement?

It also does look like an ideal candidate for a sub.

Would be interesting to hear it, especially side by side with the Magico S1, which is not perfect. It is incredibly inefficient, and to my ears, sounds a little chesty in the lower piano, lower female voices, but it did have a natural sounding bass roll off for a 2 way.

Surprisingly, JA seems to have picked up on this as well:

"Note the increasingly capacitive phase angle below the sealed-box woofer-tuning frequency of 60Hz, which suggests there is a high-value series capacitor in the woofer feed. "

He usually misses or omits issues like this in the past. This cap is helping maintain a rather consistent slope, with none of the usual lower bass bump speakers often had for toe-tapping. Looks like YG’s choice of driver had some limitations, and he has designed the woofer crossover like a midrange, with filters above and below.

Why? I don’t know, of course, but it could be two things. 1, there was a bass bump he wanted to tame, 2 he’s genuinely worried about the excursion and distortion lower frequencies will cause that driver. Interesting set of compromises, lots of 7" ish over the shelf drivers wouldn’t need this.

Definitely a speaker begging to pair with subs.

What about vs the magico a3 and talis s300 Eric? 

Hi @smodtactical

I have always felt the A3 has the potential to be a much better value than the S1 Mk II and far easier to own, but I have not actually heard it, and I was using the S1 Mk II as a foil for the YG Carmel because both are floor standing 2 way speakers.

With all things, use your own ears. :)

Best,

E

I have only head them a few times. Typically they were setup as described by Stereophile in that instead of having a bloated bass facsimile like so many 2-ways, the bass is shelved off and is very dry. In a very small room a Dallas dealer had placed them against a wall to get some bass out of them room. It was fine for a demo, but I wouldn’t live with it. It is great Ron17 invested in them; I passed on them not sure I could match them with a sub and play at a decent scale in my room.

I have also heard the A3s, same day as the Carmel 2. The A3 is the more complete as a full range, and they are really good. That day, though, they did not have the refined transparent, electrostatic-like-but-better, hypnotic and well integrated sound like the YGs. The S series is a lot closer. In my limited experience.