How loud is loud, What DB is actually loud?


I like I should say love old school rock and hip/hop rap and funk all kinds of music. I found out my dads listening level is around 75DB which i find to be completley unsatisfying.

I was looking up Quad esl's and everyone says witha 85DB rating they wont go loud, but how loud is loud, How loud is rocking out?
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Al,

Play your system in mono, turn of one channel , guarantee you will have more than a 3db loss, even after factoring losses you will still have a 4.5-5 db min drop, the theoretical difference would be 6 db.

regards,

The 3 db gain is correct for free space ( anechoic) go ahead and measure your hi-fi system, with speakers l/r and with room gain it is more than 3 db, when you turn off one side from the listen position.

regards,
"Play your system in mono, turn of one channel , guarantee you will have more than a 3db loss"

Yes, but not because of the smaller radiating area but because you cut off half of the power.

yes, there is room gain, but since it applies to both speakers it disappears when you'll take the difference - the gain is still 3dB.

I must be missing something - I would thing that if one speaker is creating certain SPL at my sitting position (including room reverberation) second exactly same speaker will double this SPL. Doubling SPL means 3dB increase
Very good write up of all this sort of stuff at www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/musFAQ.html (FAQ in music acoustics). In particular, "Does adding two equal sounds give an increase of 3 or 6 dB? Why?" is explained very clearly.

Frank