in my experience the more that you spend on uber high end gear the more likely that you’ll be disappointed. that said if i had big bucks to spend and was inclined to keep things a very long time, i’d put it in speakers. fwiw
Wilson's Chronosonic XVX loudspeaker over 3/4 of a million US dollars
Wonder what the impedance/-phase angle graph will look like on these puppies, looking at the amount of D'Agostino amps used to drive them, I'd say could be pretty evil.
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in my experience the more that you spend on uber high end gear the more likely that you’ll be disappointed.it's not how much you spend, it's the things you learn and and the effort you put in. i built a perfect room in 2004 and had lots of pretty gear in that room for 10 years. but until i learned and got my nose bloodied i was not able to figure out the room and my own reference. then it took another 2 years to get the room right. all 'uber' gear gets you is higher potential, and all a nice large room get's you is more things to figure out. but if you can put it all together....musical magic can happen. |
what i meant is that in my experience expecting a monumental jump in sound quality from a well chosen 25k amp to a 50k amp that ‘may’ sound incrementally better can be disappointing in that the improvement is not more meaningful. this would apply to most component categories. A jump from 25k speakers to well chosen 50k speakers can buy a huge difference in improved sound quality. an amp example. one can buy a luxman m900u amp for $15 list. watt for watt up to its limit I seriously doubt that a 50k boulder, dag or whatever will make the impact of a speaker upgrade. they just can’t . by no means am i saying don’t spend x on a dac, preamp and amp, just don’t expect it to fundamentally change your system as would a better speaker once you are already set with very good gear in front of the speaker. imo |
I think that WILSON AUDIO has "lost their marbles". For 3/4 of a million I could hire the CSO to play some private concerts, and come away more satisfied. My impression; - - - these speakers are "rich boy's toys". I doubt if you would find more that a handful of people in this category, world wide, that are true music connoisseurs let alone intelligent audio connoisseurs. Sure, if I were a multi million rich guy, I might buy them just to impress my dumb ass friends. I hope I never get that dumb. |
jon_5912334 posts03-02-2020 7:55pmthis is fun. You certainly know when you've touched a nerve. I'm posting because I'm curious, obviously. I don't have any special secret knowledge and I don't claim to. Do I seem like I'm trying to be attractive? At what point am I allowed to say I don't buy it? 850k, 850 trillion, when am I allowed to be skeptical? FUN? mmmm, so you like to make statements, that are NOT TRUE, or off the top of you head an it's fun to see the response? Am I understanding you right? Attractive? NO I love having a good time, enjoying the "TEC TALK". As you can read there are a lot of folks here that love great sound via Music, HT, ect. If I haven't heard a type of speaker, I WANT TO HEAR IT, before making a statement. "I never heard a Wilson I liked" I heard that a few times, while the person is setting on a speaker, I KNOW, I don't care for. Don't buy what? You mean you won't buy the speaker? Or that there is 850,000.00 worth speaker there? There are a few speakers out there that cost a bit more. Like Wilsons "WHAT DO YOU WANT" Model. Is that the name? NO. Will they do it for you? NO would they do it for me? YES WHY? would Wilson build it for me, and not for you? WHY? They like me, they don't like you.. LOL Sounds pretty stupid doesn't it.. Skeptical is GOOD, without fact, and "I don't have any special secret knowledge and I don't claim to". MMMM again. What is your 2 cents worth? not TWO CENTS for sure. Dave Wilson HAD a passion for GREAT sounding speakers, and a wonderful support group. Support is top of the line still. Do I own Wilsons?, NO! Would I own Wilsons? YES? I have heard a LOT of speakers, through the years, the best I've ever heard were ALWAYS had built. I've been lucky enough to see and hear a few through the years. No Names on the speakers. Just a lot of time and effort. One pair had Dave Wilson all over it. Just looked Wilsonee. Sure enough it was a collaboration of Wilson, Bongiorno, and a renowned cabinet maker in the midwest. ONE pair ever made.. 22 years ago, my gear, it pulled it's little blanket over it's little head at the time. This guy's STUFF was (WAS) better. I admit it. NOT NOW though. James Bongiorno the amp designer. WAS CRAZY. simple. But could he make an amp. His "private stock" of amplifiers was nothing like the commercial Ampzilla 2000s, that were spendy, already. Great SS gear Jealousy ALWAYS bring unkind word ALWAYS.. Read half the post, PURE Jealousy. Mine is the best. Hear it all the time. "You've never heard anything like mine'. Crack me up.. YES I HAVE and BETTER. maybe not a lot better, BUT BETTER..Especially when I take the cotton out of my ears. REALLY. some systems I've heard I put cotton in my ears. Everyone around saying how brilliant it is, wonderful the sound. LOL. Dump the Junk and build your own. That was a buddies words, not mine.. Regards, from an OLD HEAVY MEC. |
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