Speakers that can reveal orchestral instruments' positions


Can you tell the positions of instruments in orchestra from your favorite orchestral music CD/SACD/LP/...?
For example, horns and percussion from the back and strings from the front?
Telling the left and right positions are not that hard, but the front and back? 
If your answer is convincing yes, could you tell me about your speakers/amps/source/cartridge and the recording?
I could feel a little bit of 3D imaging on my Apogee Diva, but not as much as I could when I listen to orchestral music from live concerts. I feel far less from my Harbeth C7es and Tyler Linbrook signature systems. 

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Vandersteen, imaging champs !

i have a pair of Apogee Stage that do fairly well for depth. Check your setup and rigidity, Sound anchors help.

jim
Many speakers can do this quite well IF it is in the recording in the first place (and it usually ain't) and IF your speakers are properly set up (often not).

There is a consequence, however, in focusing on getting an exacting stereo image. It takes control of your soul and you no longer listen to the music, just the imaging.  :-)
IF your photo moniker is your setup, try moving the cone floor standers away ( and shorting them w jumpers ) and moving audio rack to the side. Big changes but worth doing IMO
jim smiths excellent book on getting better sound also advised.
best to you
jim
Yes most good speakers set up well can do it to some extent if it is in the recording to start with but omnidirectional speakers set up well are suited for it best due to the more lifelike sound dispersion pattern with omnis.

The best Example I have ever heard was with Mbl 111 speakers at old now defunct United Home Audio showroom in Annapolis Junction MD several years back. The showroom design and system setup was very optimized for the Omni mbls with a good 10’ or more of tapered and treated room space behind the speakers.

Using a high quality master reel to reel tape as a source you could identify player locations in that area from front to back and side to side exactly as if they were set up in that space behind the speakers.  Nothing else I have ever heard comes close. 

Same setup later at a local show: not so much.

My Ohm Walsh pseudo-Omni speakers at home do a good job with this but not nearly to the extent of that mbl setup which was the best I have ever heard at that by a very wide margin. Ohm Walsh are designed to allow placement fairly close to walls which fits most people’s needs better.


Yes, it depends much more on the quality of the recording than on the capabilities of the speaker (though that obviously too is a factor).  I have an extensive collection of classical CDs, and through the same system the soundstaging sounds anything from excellent to non-existent.