Thiel Owners

A few weeks ago I brought up the question about what speaker cables 
Theil 2.7 owners use . I then looked back thru the many pages on this very popular forum and then researched the different manufactures and their offerings . 
I came to the conclusion that I couldn't afford even used cables 
that might or might not better my current Cardas Neutral Reference .
So I decided to take a chance and make my own .
After researching bulk cable available I had narrowed it down to 
Furutech , Oyaide and Cardas ,  here again price became an issue 
when it came to taking a chance .
I purchased 4 @ 6.5ft long 9.5awg Cardas wire and 4 pairs of 
Kimber spade connectors all for $249.00 + shipping .
I have to say I'm amazed , they did everything better ,
I have more bass than ever  ( size does matter ) 
more soundstage with the speakers seemingly disappearing .
I never heard Hearts Dreamboat Anne or 
Beethovens 3rd symphony by Solti w/CSO sound so good .
These will problably be that last speaker cables I own
( until I win the lottery ) .



 

Robert - In the early days we used a lot of pop as tweak references. Heart / Dreamboat Annie along with Joan Baez / Diamonds and Rust were a couple that we wore out the record - before digital. I’ll also be adding some Cardas to my mix via DIY. Thanks for your report.

Robert - you inspired me to double my speaker runs to check results. I use Morrow SP4 with equivalent AWG of 14 ga / positive or negative with 8' runs. Nice improvement not only in tighter, better articulated bass (as anticipated), but as you say, across the board clarity and outside the box dimensionality. What was the equivalent AWG of your previous Cardas Neutral Reference?

To my suprise 

Outside Diameter: .600 
Dielectric Type: Teflon®, Air 
Inductance: .034 uh/ft/loop 
Capacitance: 117 pf/ft 
Bi Wire Option: Yes 
Cable AWG: 8.5 !!!!!
Conductor Type: Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Crossfield, Pure Copper Litz

But they use 2 wires to get there ,
so maybe I like the 9.5 AWG because being 1 wire/cable the outside windings have a larger diameter wire .
Also since I'm running them seperated there isn't any capacitance ,
maybe that helps .
Can't find specs on 9.5 .

I have seen the Carlsbad pair of 3.6 and aside from a woofer dust cap dent they are in incredible shape with absolutely lovely veneer. Local pickup only was offer to me and $400 the pair was quoted. IF someone makes the drive, let me know as I live about 2 miles from store - visit for a listen to music