Klipsch Cornwall III or Tyler Acoustics PD-15


I am looking for some advice on some horn loaded full range speakers that sound good at low volumes. Mainly for 2 ch use. I will be using them with primaluna prologue 2 tube amp (40w x 2). Dynamics and shouldn't induce listening fatigue due to harsh mids or highs.

Listening taste ranges from classical to classic rock to great old jazz. I have read that the Klipsch Cornwall III or Tyler Acoustics Pro dynamics series are quite smooth sounding. Has anybody heard these two speakers?
rohitdev
Rohitdev, these are two completely different animals. I have much more experience with the Cornwalls than with Tylers (PD-15s), but I will venture to guess that if you like one you probably won't like the other. You really need to find a pair of both speakers and take a good, long listen. Since Tyler Acoustics is an active concern, you should probably consult with a dealer regarding their products or an A'gon member with more experience than me.

A few words about the Cornwall: it's a great, classic speaker and they really rock! Macd says that his work great in his small room; maybe they do. My experience was not as good in my 10.5 x 13 room, even with moderate treatments. It's not that they didn't sound good, it's just that they were waaay too much speaker for the room. Maybe with a 2W amp you would be OK, but my with 12W SET it was not a good match. If you do elect to go with Cornwalls, I suggest late model Cornwall IIs and make sure that the crossovers are in good shape. You can buy repair kits or new crossovers here Critesspeakers.com

Another alternative in he Klipsch line might be the Heresy, Chorus or Forte speakers. Or the homebrewed and so-called CS-1 speakers (again, see Crites' web site). I have a pair of these and find they provide nearly the same midrange and top end as the Cornwall, but with significantly less bass response. They can be successfully used with a sub. If you are interested, drop me a PM and I'll hook you up with a friend that builds them and can answer any questions you might have.

If you are looking at Cornwalls you might also consider some of the Altec Lansing speakers that can provide similar performance. I have owned the Model 14, 15 and 17, and they all work pretty well in a smallish room. Although I really love the 604 driver used on the Model 17, the 14 works best in my room and that is what has stayed. They are big, but not as big as Cornwalls or the Tyler PDs. Great but controllable bass response, and the Mantaray horn can be tuned somewhat through careful application of damping material. Not necessarily a better sound than the Cornwall, but in my opinion it is more musical - smoother and less gritty.
The room is 12x12. You would not think its the best for sound...but the cornwalls sounded great!!!
How about the Cornscalas? They are supposedly having the bass of cornwalls and the open mids and highs of the Lascalas? Has any body built these by Bob Crites design? I have exchanged emails with him and he seems like a true gentleman. Since I havent heard either the Cornwalls or Lascalas I was wondering if sometime who has actually built / heard them can comment on their sound?
The Cornscala can be a very, very good speaker, depending on who built it and how much thought they put into the process. If you look carefully at Crites' site and read the many comments on Klipsch and other sites, it's apparent that this is very much a roll-your-own experiment.

The positives include that, properly constructed, the Cornscala can deliver a different (not necessarily better) sound than a stock Cornwall. Some would describe it as smoother. To me it's just different. The other advantages are that a Cornscala has almost certainly been modernized and cleaned-up with new crossovers and wiring. Also, you have choices in components (horns, high range drivers and crossovers) that will allow you to tailor the speaker for the room and listening distance to some degree, IF you have a builder who is savvy and will build you a unit to your specs and not sell you a pre-built pair of garage toys.

The negatives: it's still a friggin' huge Cornwall cabinet. Doing it right means that the original cabinet needs to be reinforced with bracing and/or thickened (1.5"-2" seems to work best for resonance control). And, to my ears, the Cornscalas I have heard and sounded somewhat less coherent at near listening distances than the stock Cornwall. I think that Cornscalas are better for larger rooms, but I'm sure that there are those who will disagree.
Thanks Br3098. So despite my intial skepticism about horns I decided to build myself the Wayne Parham Four Pi speakers with the upgraded drivers and stock crossovers. And I am not a skeptic anymore. The midrange and dynamics of this pair absolutely kills the Quad 22L2 that I am replacing. Very coherent sounding in my 18' x 22' living room. I have just been listening to them for a few days. The 4 pis are designed to be pretty flat from 16kHz to 50Hz after which they roll off quickly. F10 = 30 Hz. There is good usable extension down to 40 Hz in my living room even before the woofer break in. The speakers are seeing probably less than 1 watt most of the time. After the 2226 woofer breaks freq response from 50Hz to 30 Hz is supposedly to increase by as much as 10 db. So they are best when used with a couple of subs crossed over high (~ 100Hz) and barely audible to slightly augment and smooth out bass response. WAF in the living room is preventing me from getting subs currently. I have to figure out a way to awaken the JBL 2226 woofer by pumpimg ~ 60 watts or so. I am estimating that would be ~ 110 db at my listening position! Have to do this when the wife and kids aren't home!