I Need Some Opinions...


I have a modest turntable setup consisting of a Pro-Ject RM 5.1SE with the stock 9cc carbon arm. I use it through a Project Phono Box II SE and use a Pro-Ject Speed Box II SE. The preamp is connected to my Krell 400xi integrated driving Hales Revelation 3 speakers. I am still using the Sumiko Blue Point No.2 which came with the table.

My thought is I could likely improve the performance of this setup by changing cartridges; looking for more detail I THINK a LOMC might be a good idea. Is this a correct thought?


I am considering a Goldring Eroica LX for this setup. Any ideas if this will get me what I’m after? 

Would I be able to reap more benefits from a much better (i.e. more expensive) LOMC or would my current system make such a purchase meaningless?


Thanks for any input.
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My thought is I could likely improve the performance of this setup by changing cartridges; looking for more detail I THINK a LOMC might be a good idea. Is this a correct thought?

No necessary, but your new cartridge must be perfectly matched with your tonearm (you must know and learn about calculation of resonance frequency according to cartridge compliance and tonearm effective mass). And you have to think what you are willing to improve, what was wrong with Sumiko and its presentation ?

You can easily buy more expensive LOMC cartridge that in fact will be inferior in comparison to the best MM or MI available for lower price (especially vintage top models).

Looking at any LOMC cartridge you have to check GAIN of your phono stage and loading options (if there are any).

Also you have to check for stylus and cantilever of the LOMC you’re after, never buy conical or elliptical if you want the best quality and long life span, cantilever is also important and aluminum is the cheapest, the best today is probably boron (or ruby, sapphire). Here is why it is important (also for MM).

The life span of the MC cartridge is mainly the life span of the stylus tip, because you can’t replace it by yourself. If the manufacturer can’t replace the whole cartridge for you when it’s worn then you can only ask retippers (bad idea).

With MM or MI cartridges you can simply buy spare stylus even for some rare discontinued cartridges. And those styli often comes with the best profiles and best cantilevers. I have a great luck finding them for my needs in NOS like this, and for practical reason i like MM and MI as much as i like some of the best LOMC in my big collection of cartridges.

One of the best cartridge in my collection with dosen of different original replacement styli (nos) is Grace LEVEL II and Grace F14, it’s so much fun, because the manufacturer made nearly all possible variations from very cheap aluminum with best diamonds (Luminal Trace, Line Contact, Micro Ridge, Utility-4 Shibata) to very expensive and exotic (Boron/MicroRidge, Beryllium, Sapphire, Ruby, Ceramic...) and even the compliance is different. Grace made MC cartridges too, this is the rarest Grace MC in my collection.

If you think MC is equal to the word "improvement" then you’re wrong.
You have to be very careful when you’re choosing MC cartridge.
Same with MM, because most of the modern MM just sucks (with some exceptions).

Another favorite is Stanton SC-100 WOS signature model with sapphire coated cantilever and Stereohedron tip, absolutely killer MM (collector’s series 100)


Modern MM cartridges are limited to few few brands, unfortunately.


Would I be able to reap more benefits from a much better (i.e. more expensive) LOMC or would my current system make such a purchase meaningless?



Modern MC are too expensive and most of them are not better than vintage MM

Hope it will help :))



What ever you do, don't put a $2k Lyra Delos  on your table.
$5-700 max, will get an appropriate cart. Audio Tehnica and Hana would be on my radar.After that, questionable value/performance based on your table/phonostage.

Keep the speakers, they were quite good when introduced.
Although I don’t necessarily agree with every aspect of Chakster’s rationale, I do agree that you can improve your system by dumping the sumiko cartridge in favor of some select MM and MI types. LOMC is not necessarily better per se than other types. Also as Chak says you need to tell us the gain of your phono section. You may not have enough gain for an LOMC.

millercarbon, “Piezoelectric” describes an object that gives off electricity when subjected to physical pressure. Your tape seems to cancel resonance by a damping effect. That’s not piezoelectric. Similarly those products that SR like to call “transducers” are not transducers.
My phono preamp’s MC setting has 60db gain and it’s MM setting has 40db gain.
It also has jumpers for setting impedance and load resistance. In its era, the Phono Box SE II got some very favorable reviews in its price point (only $500}.

If it helps with pertinent information, here is a link to my system:

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7425

To throw in a twist, I think a VPI Prime Scout might be a huge upgrade in tables. Thinking I could pull that trigger and retire my current table. I would also likely need to upgrade my phono preamp. Opinions on this idea would also be appreciated.

I have lots of things to consider and, thanks to. Covid 19, lots of time to consider them while working from home.

Thanks to all