Speakers that sound great in terrible rooms


I remember running into an audiophile who refused to consider anything about room acoustics. He bought speakers specifically for live, untreated rooms.

Anyone else? What was your solution?
erik_squires
@nonoise wrote: " That bit of trivia just made my day. "

[Way off topic] As it was related to me:

Some of Gene LeBell’s judo students were doing stunt work for a Steven Seagal movie. Gene was there and objected to one particular stunt on the grounds that it was too dangerous. Seagal suggested that if Gene’s students weren’t tough enough to take the falls, then he’d find others who were. Pleasantries were exchanged, including opinions as to who could kick who’s @$$.

At some point Gene decided that further discourse was likely to be inconclusive, so he took Seagal down and choked him out.

Upon regaining consciousness, Seagal protested that that had been unfair because "I wasn’t ready." Whereupon Gene replied, "Are you ready now?" and took him down again, this time choking Seagal to the point of soiling himself.

I presume there was no more filming that day.

Anyway there was a lawsuit and a settlement and Gene is not allowed to comment on the alleged incident. [/way off topic]

Duke
@audiokinesis ,

That reminds me of the scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, where Brad Pitt (a stuntman) and Bruce Lee have this exchange that leads to something similar. Definitely worth seeing just for that moment alone. 

It's rare that a scene can make me laugh out loud, twice.

All the best,
Nonoise
My room is decent till about 80 hz and then I struggle with bass. I was able to get flat measured response to 20 hz when I carted my dipole? Mirage sub with a 12” driver on opposite sides then all the duct work in my basement listening room started rattling behind the drywall. Gone. The solution for the bass null in my room was trying speakers with different alignment, side firing, rear ported, etc. My kef r107/2 had all the bass emit from an opening at the top of the bass bin right in front of the head unit and I really got great results from them, too bad they couldn’t continue updating that model as the design itself was imo more room friendly than any following reference from that company.
The main problem is not given by the environment, but by the incorrect synergy of the components inserted between them, and many times the incorrect electrical phase.
By solving these problems, you can really feel the physical limits of your room.
Obviously, in a small room, you can not insert speakers that "need air around", as they would be suffocated.In addition, with a DSP software or an audio calibration process software like Dirac for example, you can intervene on the frequency response by fixing the problems.
But it is something that I prefer to avoid, as the end result will always be a compromise.