Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
To Avguru, 711smilin and all of the posters on this site.
I will try to make this post short and sweet.

I have many inside the industry sources who inform me that
Alex is giving sweet heart deals (on modified players) to
many on this forum in exchange for positive posting and
promotion of his mods.

The reason I (and other honest modifiers) wont join these
prearranged listening sessions (or post on this thread)
is we know they are run by the Alex promoters and that we
would therefore have no fair hearing.

I have no problem with someone who honestly admits to
being a supporter of Alex, but to cover up this shilling
with BS about "Just wanting to have fun and discover the
best player possible" insults my intelligence and those on
this forum.
Give it up boy's, you have been unmasked!
Goose,

Thanks for your kind comments. Stay with us as we need more voices of reason.

AVGURU
On a topic more closely related to the original title of this thread, has anyone played with the Mccormack Universal player? It got a weird mixed review in the most recent Stereophile. How does it stack up against the DV50 or any of the modded players?
2. AVguru, I think you once said that you were going to post some extended comments about the Marantz SA-11. Even though I already took the plunge and am extremely happy with my Modwright 999, I am still interested in extending my knowledge base.
Finally, has anyone yet seen/heard the Simaudio Orbiter? Looks interesting and no one seemes neutral on how they feel about Simaudio products.

Peter
Eldon buddy, get a life, and a new career, cause things must not be going too good for you to stoop to this level. If I was not having fun, why would I buy Modwrights 3910 to furthur my search. Check out the CES auction buddy. That may have been your mod, but your business acumen, and personality is lacking.

Get a life
Pscialli,

You pose some very good questions. It seems there was an initial buzz of excitement when the McCormack piece first came out based on the first review. However, subsequent reviews and owners comments have either been mixed or only mildy positive. And as you mentioned the latest Stereophile review was not very complemetary. I have yet to hear it but when I went to Music Direct to audition the X01 they told me the McCormack was just "ok". I would have listened to one but at that time they didn't have one in stock.

Regarding the new Orbiter, I put a post out on Audiogon a month ago asking for comments on this piece. No one commented. I would be very interested in getting a ahold of this piece and reviewing it as their stand alone cdp's have been quite good and I have a lot of respect for their engineering. Additionally, the Orbiter looks killer, even better than the DV 50 with a better build quality. But it seems everyone is waiting for a great review to come out first before taking a chance on it.

Regarding the Marantz SA 11, when I made my comments about reviewing it no one on this thread really seemed to be interested so I didn't persue it. There are a couple of other threads currently on A-gon regarding this player.

Its interesting that you mentioned the Marantz because right now I am auditioning the Marantz SA 14 vers. 2. Its in my rack and going up against the DV 50 and an Arcam cd 23.It was one of Marantz's better cdp's that seemed to be well liked and got very favorable reviews. So far the results have been interesting! The SA 14 is a nice player.

Of course, none of these players have the musicality of the modded players. And I really think its the tubes that make them magical.

AVGURU