Do I need an overhang gauge, in addition to a protractor to position cartridge correctly?
auliruegas ... what needs to be straigth aligned with the lines in the protractor is the cantilever it self not the cartridge ...Agreed! That's why I think the use of a mirrored gauge is necessary for best results - using a reference mark on the gauge and the reflection of the cantilever itself to achieve tangency. |
Some of you guys I think love word games even more than audio. One of the main things that makes turntables mysterious and difficult is all these silly little debates that it seems the world revolves around to you, but to any normal guy its nothing. Overhang is just like that. Technically yeah your spindle ref is more correct. To the average guy setting up a turntable it sure looks to him like he's adjusting the distance the stylus is from the tone arm pivot. Which he is. Exactly. Same thing with the cantilever/body thing. Yeah I know, look at the cantilever not the body. Even Peter Ledermann says so, and who am I to argue? He's right. Of course. Just one question: who's ever had a cartridge so whack this mattered? Actually I lied. Another question. If you set the cartridge down and the cantilever is cock-eyed, how can you be sure its the cantilever and not tone arm stiction causing that? Which if you care to look, golly, the same Peter Ledermann says to watch out for this. https://sound-smith.com/faq/how-do-i-set-my-cartridges-overhang-adjustment Stiction. See? I could go on and on with these all day. But that's your guys job. Mine is to help guys get set up and enjoying music. Not navel gazing and worrying and spending more on mounting the cartridge than on the cartridge itself. Records are by far the best gateway drug into the world of high end audio. More and more people are turning to records because they hear the difference. Even more would if they weren't so held back by it seeming so darn hard to understand. Why not, instead of making it harder and harder, just give em a hand? |
Dear @millercarbon: ""
Mine is to help guys get set up and enjoying music. Not navel gazing and worrying and spending more on mounting the cartridge than on the cartridge itself. .........
Why not, instead of making it harder and harder, ..."" You can enjoy MUSIC with high or lower distortions, it's up to you. The main cartridge/tonearm set up parameter as the overhang we need to do it only one time till we change to other cartridge or other tonearm. I posted here: " An accurated/precise cartridge/tonearm alignment is a must to have to mantain at minimum the tracking error and tracking distortions levels along the LP recorded surface during playback. " that means lower distortion levels. If you can detect it or not that kind of distortions is another matters but for me first than all it's a must to do one time what I posted. Where can you see that " harder and harder " when you do the job only one time? R. |
Thanks you to all the responders to my question about the overhang. This is so incredible to get all this help from you all about this. That was all good information I got from this post, it sounds like for the short answer that I'm okay without using an overhang gauge, so long as stylus tip is set to protractor null points properly. I'm really trying to get my turntable set up properly, and I've learned so much I didn't know in a short time about this.I just messed up a 100 dollar stylus I bought because I didn't have the right tonearm/cartridge alignment. An expensive mistake that I'm determined to not gonna let happen again. And I'm so dying to hear my records the right way again. Thanks so much for the help. |
